“Family Life Today – The Greatest Revolution”

by Celtic Family Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:37

Allowing for the fact that Céifin derives its name from Ceibhfhionn -- the Celtic Goddess of Intelligence, Inspiration, & Knowledge -- I'm wondering if deep-rooted, difficult, and awkward subjects and issues of the kind raised at http://www.indymedia.ie/article/84679 and http://www.indymedia.ie/article/89618 will be discussed at the Céifin Conference on Tuesday, 4th & Wednesday, 5th November?

Related link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ceibhfhionn&btnG=S...earch

by erasminist Wed Oct 29, 2008 22:20

The Ceifinn centre in Clare has its thumb on the social pulse. Every year it holds a conference on social matters such as family life, social integration and disintegration, and the need for matching education to social and personal needs. The quality of social life versus the glitter of financial affluence has been a recurrent theme. Check their site and publications here.

http://www.ceifin.com/

Some books have been published featuring the major papers read and some responses.

by Paul McAndrew - Cork WSM Tue Nov 04, 2008 18:27

is this "family values" as in code for anti-gay bigotry?

seem to be a lot of church men involved

by Paul McAndrew - Cork WSM Tue Nov 04, 2008 18:34

Dear ,

Colm O'Gorman, CEO of Amnesty International Ireland and Karen Kiernan, Director of One Family will be speaking about Cardinal Sean Brady's comments today in relation to all non traditional unmarried families.

We have released the following statement:

MarriagEquality: Response to Cardinal Sean Brady's comments on Civil Partnership and Civil Marriage speaking at the 11th annual Ceifin Conference.

Tuesday, 4th November, 2008: "The comments by Cardinal Sean Brady continues to stigmatize the children raised by gay mums and dads and underlines that he is out of touch with modern Ireland," said Moninne Griffith, Coordinator, MarriagEquality. "All adults and children are entitled to equality regardless of their sexuality or the sexuality of their parents, this however is not the case and must change."

She continued, "It is high time that the lesbian and gay family unit, including children, are recognised and protected in Ireland. Indeed, 84% of the Irish population support civil partnership or civil marriage being made available to lesbians and gay men and an overwhelming 86% agree that children of gay and lesbian parents should have the same family rights as the children of married parents."

Ms Griffith concluded, "Although MarriagEquality are calling for civil marriage to be opened up to lesbians and gay men, we do no believe that children raised outside of marriage are any lesser than those raised by a man and woman. What is important is that the children are raised in a loving home."

Moninne Griffith

by RM Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:52

"As I trust you will understand, I feel I cannot (at this late stage) sensibly attempt to explain or communicate the highly complex and convoluted set of difficulties outlined at the Internet address just above by any means other than the Internet: either to you, or to anybody else."

The above excerpt is from an e-mail sent yesterday, which was copied to Fr. Harry Bohan (Founder of The Céifin Centre).

It is thought that he and his colleagues may not be aware of the general set of problems in question, and that by drawing their attention to them, they may wish to try and help society address them in some way.

The full e-mail in question can be viewed at the following location:
http://www.humanrightsireland.com/DrAnneJeffers/6Novemb...l.htm

by Yvonne Wed Dec 10, 2008 14:38

I cannot thank Cardinal Brady enough for defending and speaking up for married couples and families like our own consisting of Mother, Father and Children. For so long now we have been undermined and penalized, particularly through the current Tax Individualisation system which only gives a single tax free allowance(still called married allowance on Tax literature) to households with one spouse working outside the home if their wife (or husband) is a full time carer looking after children or dependent relatives. This system was introduced by Charles McCreevy in 2000 and he referred to it as 'your own money in your own arse pocket', which apart from being unpleasant is also very selfish and self-centered. No offense Mr. McCreeve, but in a family the money in mine or my husband's pocket is for our family not just our own individual persons, and this is not being recognised by your individualistic approach. For whatever the pressures being put on the Government to implement this and similar individualistic regime's, the long term consequences of undermining this large section of families will have to be considered and necessary changes made to avoid these happening any further. It is known beyond a doubt and accepted by experts that children do better and are happier in families consisting of their mother and father with no penalty for their Mother (or Father) staying at home full time to raise them (if that is what is best for them). Many children are deeply unhappy when they have to go to external childcare everyday as were our children while this was their situation. It is for the well-being of our children and the benefit of society that Marriage between our children's biological parent's be incentivized and given special status and not be downgraded as is now the case, and we would further call for the special status of Marriage between a man and a woman be re-instated in the tax system as it was prior to 2000, and in line with our constitution. Many Married couples voted against the Lisbon Treaty because of this downgrading of Marriage that they are unhappy with. For so long there was no-one defending Marriage and traditional families while the Government pressed ahead with their anti-family policies. Now, thankfully there are numerous intelligent speakers, including Cardinal Brady, highlighting this injustice. Thank-you to you all. Our family is extremely grateful and appreciative. Thank-you. Thank-you. Thank-you!

by Lord Haw Haw - Bone Idle Rich Thu Dec 11, 2008 16:07

Alot of truth in what has been written so far .
Considering the carry on in relation to anti social and the point u are making ,you have given me something to think about .
Every one should get together and do something quick before people lose the spirit to live a peaceful life

by Yvonne Mon Dec 15, 2008 19:42

I think the church has been silent for years on all issues as it has had to keep its head down because of all the terrible scandals that took place and is only now starting to speak out again and defend family values and the importance of mothers and fathers in the home and family. There are many good priests and religious leaders that share our family values and they have been prevented from carrying out their responsibilities because of the past corruptions in the church and state. I fully agree that fathers play a very important role in the family and everything needs to be done to ensure that they are encouraged and allowed to fulfill that role. I don't know if the media and trash TV is fully to blame for portraying men as bad fathers, it may also have been a backlash from women who witnessed their own mothers stuck at home while their fathers had social lives or went to the pub, also many women were very stressed with their work at home, raising children, paid employment and felt they weren't getting the support from their husbands. But thankfully that has mostly changed now and women have a choice to work (although unfortunately they are now penalised through Tax Individualisation if they wish to stay at home to raise their children), husbands are generally more supportive of all the effort and responsibility that goes with running a home and raising children, and I think that women have become more understanding and aware of how difficult it has been for men in recent years. I have sons and a daughter and I celebrate my sons masculinity (in addition to my husbands) and my daughters femininity (in addition to my own) and I realize how important it is for them to have their father and myself present in their home lives. Traditionally a happy family life has been respected and aspired to in Irish society, but many people forgot that it was also hard work and commitment. Hopefully, we will all remember the benefits of the love and sense of security in marriage and family life for our children's sake and for the sake of future generations, and we will all work towards that.