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Thursday January 01 1970

Democracy and policing - public meeting

category national | rights, freedoms and repression | event notice author Tuesday November 13, 2007 20:09author by Democracy and Policing Report this post to the editors

How accountable are the gardaí to the Irish people

Democracy and policing
How accountable are the gardaí to the Irish people?

A Discussion hosted by Eamonn Dunphy

Featuring representatives of

Wheelock Family (inner city Dublin)
Rossport residents (Co. Mayo)
Maloney family (Crumlin, Dublin)
Rossiter family (Clonmel Co. Tipperary)

Royal Dublin Hotel, O'Connell Street Dublin
Thursday 29th November
7:30pm

All welcome

author by TheNogpublication date Tue Nov 13, 2007 22:29author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I feel this is a great topic for debate but I wonder if the representatives are all a bit one-sided. Where is the balance that every debate needs?

Appears to me the organisers haven't thought this through at all or maybe they are going for a debate on bashing the gardai

author by Séamuspublication date Wed Nov 14, 2007 15:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It just says that there'll be people there representing those groups, not that they'll be the panellists. And actually, what do you think the chances are that, even if invited, someone from the Garda or the Ombudsman's office even would attend?

author by Frank Handpublication date Fri Nov 16, 2007 14:50author address author phone Report this post to the editors

It would be a good idea to have a more balanced panel. I know it's not likely that the cops will turn up or that someone might speak for them but it would be worth asking. At least then if they don't turn up you can let people know that they were invited.
Maybe one of the right wing media commentators might speak for the cops?

author by Soundmigrationpublication date Fri Nov 16, 2007 16:09author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Don't think this is about a wanky academic discussion giving 'both sides'. those speaking have already suffering from the actions (and inactions) of the guards, the judicary and the state. I'd imagine that its about building real and lasting links between families and communities suffering from unaccountable action of the the guards,

author by jimpublication date Mon Nov 19, 2007 14:30author address author phone Report this post to the editors

i think that all these families have suffered injustice
so boo woo if there one sided lets here there side
the side mainstream media wont print
because there to close to the cops with there socalled "sources"
it will be very interesting to hear there stories

author by ADpublication date Tue Nov 20, 2007 09:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

If I were inviting a number of people who had suffered at the hands of violent others, I would not necessarily invite representatives of that group of violent others as it may make the victims feel unsafe, and perhaps inhibit their participation in the event.

While I agree that a public debate between representatives of people who have been at the recieving end of Garda brutality and representatives of the Gardai would be worthwhile and interesting, the organisers of this event have obviously decided that this is not the space for such a debate. This event is not an oppositional public debate and should not be expected to be so. If someone wishes to see a public debate on this issue then perhaps they should call for one to be organised, or organise one themselves if they are in a position to do so.

author by Posterpublication date Tue Nov 20, 2007 23:19author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Poster
Poster

author by Frank Handpublication date Wed Nov 21, 2007 14:28author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Good point AD. My previous comments were directed at the “fuck the pigs” wankers who probably only read about police brutality in a book.
I still think inviting the police or their representatives (who wouldn’t turn up anyway) would give the organisers the high moral ground in the eyes of the ordinary joe public. All these campaigns need to keep spreading the word not just preach to the converted (a very comfortable position for some people).
By the way, having heard Terence’s brother speaking I’m sure he would love to debate this publicly with the police. That is why none of them would be willing to turn up.

author by chepublication date Wed Nov 21, 2007 16:53author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The debate will be open to the public any one can go its on oconnel st.
i'm sure if the gardai want to attend there is nothing stopping them.
i remember the anti corruption in the mansion house hosted by frank mcbrearty,
there where cops there and some horrendeouse storys of corruption.
even the the baton weilding robocop was there and many others.
so i dont know if they need a writen invitation to come
and who is to say that gardai haven't had one?

author by Gregor Kerrpublication date Wed Nov 28, 2007 17:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

... Thurs nite, 7:30, Royal Dublin

author by Liam Bradypublication date Thu Nov 29, 2007 16:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

In relation to the Spike where abouts is the Royal Dublin?

author by Sharon . - Individual.publication date Thu Nov 29, 2007 16:59author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Hi Liam !

With the Spike 'monument' behind you , stay on the traffic isle and walk up O'Connell Street towards the Parnell Statue/'Ambassador Cinema' building - you'll see the hotel on your left-hand side.

I hope this meeting gets good media coverage ; it deserves it .

Sharon.

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