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John Gill and Freedom of Speech on Trial Tomorrow
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news report
 Wednesday October 04, 2006 12:36 by mac consaidin - A Victim of Legalised Crime
In High Court, Four Courts Dublin 1, at 10.30am on Thursday 5th Oct (tomorrow)
Tomorrow at 10.30 in High Court a very important case will commence. At issue is the right of citizens to speak out without fear, when they have been abused and damaged by the Irish legal system, its courts, judges, officers (solicitors) or officials. At issue is the VLPS movements campaign for a legal ombudsman, for an end to self-regulation by legal professions, for reform of the practise of law in this country and for the "outing" of lawyers who abuse the privileges of their professional positions to amass fortunes through insider knowledge etc in property development. At issue also, and most importantly, is the freedom of the internet. Whether all this is decided tomorrow and how it is decided, may depend on how much support is seen at the Four Courts tomorrow. Be there! Tomorrow morning, at 10.30, John Gill of the VLPS is a defendant in a libel suite taken against him and others by Jayne Mansfield, a barrister. John Gill is accused of posting a comment about Ms Mansfield on the Rateyoursolicitor.com website alleging that she is a sociable outgoing young lady or words to that effect.
John Gill has never met Ms Mansfield, Knows nothing about her, has no knowledge of computers and has no control over any web site. Jayne Mansfield, herself has said to John Gill that she knows the person who put up the post and it was a man known to her from Dundalk.
Suing John Gill in this matter is a travesty. In reality it is a contrivance by the Courts, Bar Council and Law Society to stop their victims from speaking out about what goes on in their courts and offices around the country.
John Gill has been in court, representing himself and others against injustice on innumerable occasions. A number of members of VLPS and supporters of John Gill have been sent to prison for contempt over the past two years. They were abandoned in prison for weeks by so called legal professionals. Some of these legal professionals altered documents to take control of property. John Gill single handedly approached the courts and embarrassed them into releasing these men. They did not have to purge their contempt. In the case of John McMahon, featured on Sunday World last week, he has resumed his stand to defeat the Court Order to remove him from his family's land in Castleblaney.
John Gill is one of the most courageous and eloquent characters to grace an Irish Court since Daniel O'Connell. He fought successfully against theft of property from himself and subsequently, committed himself to fighting the same issues for everyone who seeks his help or support. He is indefatigable and has traversed every county in Ireland over the past two years meeting people who were previously in despair about getting justice or getting their story heard. He has many, many supporters, at home and abroad. All those who have been effected by unscrupulous lawyers and judges, false titles, false wills, "disappeared" documents, gross overcharging, arrogance and bullying. John Gill will represent himself tomorrow, as he always does, against the entire legal system. However, he has the backroom support of a number of Irish Law Graduates and International Lawyers and he will win tomorrow. He will win because he has Right & Justice and hundreds of staunch supporters on his side.
He will also win because he has nothing to do with www.Rate-your-solicitor.com and had absolutely nothing to do with the posting of comments there about Jayne Mansfield. He is totally innocent of the charge alleged.
From the public's point of view, and particularly those of the public who believe in freedom of speech on the internet and believe in open sites such as indymedia, and rateyoursolicitor, it is most important that John Gill wins tomorrow.
Support outside and inside the Four Courts will ensure a good outcome. Hope to see you all there!
http://www.rate-your-solicitor.com/
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Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6Yes, that should do the trick all right, you will probably get away with cruxification, for a first offence.
Bring a toothbrush though, just in case.
PS: It is ironic that innocent comments (such as this one, published y'day + again today with this addition) which in absolutely no way conflict with ed.guidelines are being censored off this page with vigour and speed - I sincerely hope that whoever is responsible for that will stop acting like a little commisar trying to protect his buddies from light satire, otherwise indy.ie will soon be as useless as RYS.com
But then again, if VOLPS had been as quick with the knife as some editiors here, maybe they would not be in court today? Interesting paradox, eh?
perhaps it's not too late for Mr G. to grab a legal dictionary and look up
1. plausible deniability
2. balance of probability
3. implausible impossibility
4. banjaxxed beyond reasonable doubt
however, latin is not learned during lunch
Stiff upper lip + best of luck
The original troublesome comment posted at RYS.com which gave rise to the present legal proceedings has been edited out of the website as of yesterday and replaced with this:
"4th of Oct, 2006 by RYS Management
Catherine employs a barrister (REMAINDER OF COMMENT REMOVED). The RYS management has noted Mr. John Gill's appeal to have the original remarks posted in this place about Ms Jayne Maguire, barrister, removed in order to stop his continued harassment by Irish lawyers. This harassment is completely uncalled for, as RYS is a completely independent organization without any legal ties whatsoever to the VLPS, and neither Mr. Gill nor any other members of the VLPS committee have ever had any knowledge of or influence on RYS policies. Even though RYS does not operate under Irish law, being located outside the Irish jurisdiction, and despite delays due to severe technical difficulties, management has unanimously decided to accede to Mr. Gill's appeal as a token of good will and as a once-off gesture to a greatly admired man. May he be a thorn in the side of all incompetent, negligent and corrupt Irish lawyers for a long time to come! Of course, management does have to reserve the right, however reluctantly, to reinstate the comments about Ms Maguire without further notice, if her utterly misguided proceedings against Mr. Gill and the other members of the VLPS committee should continue beyond Oct. 5, 2006. CONTINUED BELOW."
Hhmmm !
Will this late move square the circle and let Mr G. + 7 co-defendants off the liability hook?
Who is RYS management?
How reluctant are they really?
30 minutes to showtime ... legal history being made in tempo allegre?
That subtley phrased threat to re-publish the slanderous comment will surely go down a treat with the High Court, oh yea.
Also, it kinda demonstrates how 'independent' RYS management is from Mr Gill, not.
This thing is shaping up to be a pretty gory case. For anybody thinking of going in there, welder's masks can be hired at the Law Library front desk for €1/day.
The people behind this web-site are going to the High Court today to defend their inalienable right to call any lady barrister they hate " a parish bicycle".
Bring your toothbrushes lads!
(actually, rather than sticking to their so-called principles (such as they are) my money is on an cringing climb-down by these brave lads)
I would have expected a court reporter to be a lot more objective than you are in your posts: "call any lady barrister they hate a parish bicycle". You are trying to shoot the messenger that you hate yourself, as all legal eagles are trying to do today. Why in the world would the RYS web site people hate this particular barrister? They probably don't even know her. If anybody does hate her it is the POSTER OF THE REMARK.
The complete and very extensive statement of the RYS mangement about the whole situation, which seems to deal with a lot of the objections that the court reporter and others have made against the site has now been copied on the Crooked Lawyers site:
http://www.crookedlawyers.com/default.php#item17
These people seem to be a lot more reasonable than C R gave them credit for!