People before Profit Alliance damage another campaign

by anon Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:03

Is this Carmel McKenna someone involved in environment/heritage campaigns in Wicklow before she hooked up with PB4P or the SWP.

by D_D Fri Sep 08, 2006 20:14

Two points should not be confused here. One is that political groups or parties should not attempt, especially covertly, to dominate or use a campaign. If this has been tried here then it is wrong and only adds to a long litany of that type of operation.

The other point is about the right of political groups to get involved in a campaign in an honest, democratic and supportive way. It seems that some of the people in this campaign, while putting total reliance on POLITICIANS to win a postponement, are against LEFT wing political participation of any kind. However the Green PARTY seems acceptable to them.

by Barra Fri Sep 08, 2006 01:38

Sorry I did not make this point clearer in the article

by bray person Thu Sep 07, 2006 22:42

This article is very misleading - it suggest that Deirdre DeBurca is aligned to the people before profit group - I don't think this is the case

by ex green Thu Sep 07, 2006 20:33

Deirdre Is a woman of the highest integrity and a fighter.

(If she were a man she would be a TD, but that is for the Greens to address).

She is also too humble, she has fought on the issue of CRH dumping and illegality
for many years, often alone and nearly always maligned. She was a founder member
of the Green Party Women's Group and she works tirelessly on environment and gender
issues in relation to this issue , she has the knowledge and expertise to see it through.

The PBP alliance, on the other hand are an off-shoot of a socialist party, with a leader
(de facto) who will not stand down from the anti-war chair and address with honesty
the issues of environmental concern to communities. In the case of the mentioned cases
Pallaskenry, Tara, Rossport- the effects of corrupt planning are and should be community
led- political elbow and nowse should only be welcomed by the community.
One other purported left wing party high-jacked issues of community concern for years
to gain political capital-their quietness in the face of the other environmental campaigns
speaks volumes. it was a means of acessing power and they let down communities.

Using the concerns of a community to target votes and achieve power instead of allowing
the community to lead and direct its own campaign is simply opportunism.

by m.m.mccarron - o.s.i Thu Sep 07, 2006 17:13

I am grateful that the Arkow group has made its position, in relation to political truth, very clear.

Political truth must be a feature of today. Irish society is taking action on real issues that matter to it. It is moving away in front of the political. It is a measure of its sucess that polical groups have to settle for a chance to piggyback. Arklow and Bantry and Pallaskenry and Bantry and Rossport and Tara show us the way. Keep going.

It is disappointing that political groupings have to resort to subterfuge and shows great immaturity. Once crediblity is suspected one has enemies now instead of, at worst, neutrals.

I totally accept political groupings but be fair and earn your credibility. Have events, give support but name and identify yourselves. There is a growing dicontent among honest supporters when they find themselves drawn into meetings, petitions, table quizzes, awards etc. organized by bodies that are political by intent but who hide the fact and do not poster themselves adequately. Full marks to those who do.

At this level of dishonesty, these groups are no more perfect that we claim for the Department of the Marine...and Shell. It needs serious consideration within such groups. Otherwise we have to accept that for many, the issues are like footballs. And have to regret that very noble names and titles are hijacked in pursuit of selfishness.