Tibet: Beyond Nationalism

by Borbo - Tonks Thu Oct 27, 2005 19:04

Good job there advancing the aims of the Nazi SS and the CIA.

Liberate Tibet . . . so the Dali Lama can have slaves again?

Neither the Dali Lama nor most Tibetans support Tibet independence.

I agree there are problems with Chinese rule, but there is no movement for an independent Tibet. It's a creation of Nazis and the CIA.

by Panchen Fri Oct 28, 2005 09:55

Typical infantile crap about the Dalai Lama and slaves. The whole population are slaves now. Those who have survived nearly half a centiry of brutality and murder at the hands of the liberators of mankind.-

by RobbieS Tue Nov 29, 2005 20:53

It is apparent by Barbo's comment, that s/he couldn't be bothered listening to the audio, or failed to grasp its central point.

Before commenting, Barbo might even have looked at the title of the piece Tibet: BEYOND Nationalism [caps this time to guide the wilfully dense]. The sentiment that Yungchen relays, is one of post-nationalism. She doesn't mind Chinese people living there, even as part of China, but she does want parity of esteem.

Comparing the content of this story to Nazism is an ignorant inversion of reality to be sure.

The Chinese invasion of 1949 was uninvited, unwanted, unwarranted, unlawful, undemocratic, unworthy of your attention, apparently.

by Becky - NA Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:05

Please do not use the number of death in Tibet to play around. If you insist doing this, should also check how many Chinese were killed in theTibet for nothing and how much Chinese government placed funds to build up roads and econmoy for them. It is objective to look at both side then make an adjustment.

Secondly, have you ever been to China and stayed in Tibet? or just collect your information from some ramdom people to make youself famous?

I do respect your opinion but as a chinese who have been lived home for 24 years, I strongly disagree with yours and believe you are NOT doing the right thing.

It might be used under the name of "human right" but shall you look at your own country's affair first?

Dont be funny!

by Hypocritter Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:49

Mainly to ease the removal of Tibet's natural resources to fuel Chinese industry (study the route vs the location of large deposits of valuable raw materials). Of course it also expedites the dilution of the indigenous population with lots of emigrant chinese. This ain't to help Tibetans do their shopping in Bejing y'know! They are doing the same in the Congo right now. They build the roads/rail first to optimise getting the goodies out.

Thats why this is such a hot issue for the Chinese. And there's no way they will ever give up all those resources. No matter who marches where or what the Dali Lama says.

The US and others are well aware of this, and they don't give 2 shits about Tibet either, but are just opportunistically talking all this up for political gain. They'd steal those resources themselves in a heartbeat if they could under an "American plan to build bases and bring democracy to Tibet"

It's no skin off their noses if the Olympics are fucked up but they are still quietly outsourcing their polluting industries and jobs to China, taking those big loans, and their business friends are making their usual millions. No boycotts there. The athletes livelihoods are a cheap price to politicians. There won't be the same clamour around the London Olympics though. despite Britain's continual imperialist resource grabbing policies right up to the present day in Iraq.

So let the athletes have their day and try to improve relations with China. Antagonising China only makes talking to them harder and makes them buy more weapons (gee I wonder whose agenda that serves??) and thats bad in the long run for everyone. And no matter what happens, they are not giving up Tibet's resources so forget that.

Not a good situation for Tibetans I agree. And they will probably be blamed for the international embarrassment which won't help their cause with the Chinese much either. But like the rest of us they might just have to get used to having their identities and natural resources stolen without being able to do much about it. I have to say, Tibetans seem to have a lot more fight in them than us. I admire their spirit and anti-capitalist sensibilities and I wish them the best in their "David and Goliath" uphill struggle.

But right now its all just being spun on the world stage for cheap political points.

And the hypocrisy really stinks.