Dublin - Event Notice
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Take Back The City
dublin |
anti-capitalism |
event notice 
Thursday September 01, 2005 19:25
by Take Back The City - RTS, Critical mass, car free day, etc..
Free Party!
Saturday 24th of September
Free Street Party!
meeting at the spire from 2pm!
Bring FUN!
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Take Back They City Street Party.
wrong date?
This should be on SAT 24th not the 22nd.
This is our carfreeday
carfreeday is on the 22nd - we however are going to celebrate it on sat the 24th.
From what i've heard this is going to be absolutely amazing. I'd advise everyone to turn up for this. Spread the word!
"From what i've heard this is going to be absolutely amazing."
Is it? What have you heard and where have you heard it from? Please, enlighten us. Forgive my bleak outlook but personally I think this is going to be one of the worst Car Free Day or RTS events ever. For the past two summers there has been no support for the Critical Mass. And already on this day there is a republican march (I doubt they're invited to this street party) and a protest down in Shannon - but maybe people have forgotten about the planes still landing and refuelling there all the time. You're clashing with other people - and Sept 22nd has already been marked as a day for action in Dublin for Car Free Day (as it has been for the past 4 years).
This is also a repeat of a decision being made by people from other groups in private, which happened with Mayday this year too. There was no discussion on the rts-dublin yahoo list, which is the email list for organising RTS events in the city. There was no public meeting advertised, either here or anywhere else, nor an invitation for new people to come along and help get involved. If people are going to use the RTS "brand" then they should be willing to open it up for new people to come along and get involved in the decision making process, open and democractic, all that sort of thing. The whole thing smacks of vanguardism, you know - we're a part of a "scene" already that does stuff in a similar vein so we'll make the decisions ourselves - if a trot group had organised something this way people would be up in arms about it on the newswire.
Who knows, maybe it will lash rain again like it did on the 22nd last year and Mayday this year, the gods dont like it when you (whoever "you" is) take control of something in secret that doesnt belong to you (or anyone for that matter).
People made a meal of the Connolly statue being defaced, and it was a total over-reaction, but I think it was indicative of what RTS is about these days (especially in this country where it didnt grow out of an anti-road movement: you can bet your last euro that the "party-goers" wont be flocking to the Skryne Valley when the M3 work starts). Its completely ideologically empty at its core, devoid of any historical or political context or involvement in the city. Numerous anti-car protests happened in the city two or three years ago, in Cuffe St, Dominick St and Queen St, where local residents groups wanted ramps, chicanes, wider paths, etc. Did "RTS Dublin" forge any links with these groups? Fuck no. There was cans of beer and joints to be had! There was statues to be defaced! There was a thin veneer of 'revolution' to be upheld!
And so it rolls on... as stale as the bread served by a briefly resurrected Food Not Bombs (the type of people at RTS's dont NEED food for a brief three or four hours dancing - GIVE IT TO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE and stop showing up at countercultural events surrounded by shops, food stalls and supermarkets) and as predictable as summer TV repeats, this is exactly what all supposed revolutionary activity will ever boil down to in this city... a place (albeit slightly different) to get pissed in and dance to some music. Yawn.
>already on this day there is a republican >march (I doubt they're invited to this street >party)
Actually they are and will be on the day.
>and a protest down in Shannon - but maybe >people have forgotten about the planes still >landing and refuelling there all the time.
There are plenty of people going to that who would never go to a street party, what's the big deal? The more events the merrier.
>You're clashing with other people - and >Sept 22nd has already been marked as a >day for action in Dublin for Car Free Day (as >it has been for the past 4 years).
So what? Go organise your own action for that day - we've chosen Sat 24th as our day.
>This is also a repeat of a decision being >made by people from other groups in >private, which happened with Mayday this >year too. There was no discussion on the >rts-dublin yahoo list, which is the email >list .for organising RTS events in the city.
That list has been dead for over 2years.
>There was no public meeting advertised
There was, just not on this site.
>either here or anywhere else, nor an >invitation for new people to come along and >help get involved.
There were about 8new ppl at this meeting who have never organised anything like this before. There is also a second collective of people who are organising another event to feed into this one.
>If people are going to use >the RTS "brand" >then they should be willing >to open it up >for new people to come along >and get >involved in the decision making >process, >open and democractic, all that sort of thing. >The whole thing smacks of vanguardism, >you know - we're a part of a "scene" already >that does stuff in a similar vein so we'll >make the decisions ourselves - if a trot >group had organised something this way >people would be up in arms about it on the >newswire.
This is NOT an RTS event, we're not using that name and it's not going on the posters, we want to evolve beyond that. A certain level of secrecy is unfortunately needed when organising these things and that is unfortunate but it's not sinister, we're not seizing control of the IAWM, we're seizing control of the streets - that's what would differentiate us from the trots.
>Who knows, maybe it will lash rain again >like it did on the 22nd last year and Mayday >this year, the gods dont like it when you
>(whoever "you" is) take control of something >in secret that doesnt belong to you (or >anyone for that matter).
If you want to get involved just email me, simple as.
>Numerous anti-car protests happened in >the city two or three years ago, in Cuffe St, >Dominick St and Queen St, where local >residents groups wanted ramps, chicanes, >wider paths, etc. Did "RTS Dublin" forge any >links with these groups? Fuck no. There >was cans of beer and joints to be had! >There was statues to be defaced! There >was a thin veneer of 'revolution' to be >upheld!
Yeh, that's great, except people did make links with Dominic street, why don't you go down there and tell them you'll run their anti-car campaign for them?
>and as predictable as summer TV repeats, >this is exactly what all supposed >revolutionary activity will ever boil down to in >this city... a place (albeit slightly different) to >get pissed in and dance to some music. >Yawn
I think you'll be proved wrong on the day.
you should show up for this one, lot's of juicy rumours going round!
Yep, there are. But you'll only find out the truth if you come on the day...
Food Not Bombs gave food to the homeless and anyone who wanted it in various locations on the streets of Dublin when it was going strong rain or shine.
Get your facts right mate.
By the by it didnt rain last Sept 22nd matey because I and several others had organised a successful CFD Critical Mass on that day which went very well...
See the pics here if you dont beleive me...
http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=66715&search_text=critical%20mass
There is a need for secrecy when organising such events as RTSs etc but the key is participation on the day so be there one and all!
Can someone get a PDF or similar file of these posters up here in order so we can do some fly-posting?
Would be appreciated.
bit pessimistic, no?
first off this event is not an RTS. tho what it will be depends on who shows up. it'll be whatever you bring to it, literally. this is a participative event. temporarily given space what would you do with it?
it's going up on websites from community exchange to ie dance. it will be a space to do whatever you want to in. a few people are finding space, that's all.
the point about forging links is well taken. that takes longer-term time & effort than organising a piss-up & is finally happening for example the grassroots gathering in Rossport recently which brought together communities from all over the island who are involved in local campaigns. if you're looking for something useful to get involved in there's a community garden in dolphin's barn, go check that out. there are people trying to get a social centre going, would you like to get involved?
you're not the only one to think that "RTS" needs to be different. maybe this event will be. see you there.
An other chance to bound with fellow human beings. One world, one tribe, one race the human race.
Come on people just bring yourselves, entertainment and set your personality free
one has just started now in east London at the DLR station royal albert docklands. Lovely situation. Very interesting place. They're taking part in the anual protest against the largest arms trade fair in europe which occurs every year "around now".
Whatever about the "branding" and what you may think a rts! event is about, just remember they bring people together, no matter what it says on the poster or who sat on the meetings. & oddly you won't find many people in either Ireland or the UK who remember how and where that wonderful brand name mixture came together in the first place.
http://indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/09/322639.html
http://www.disarm-trade.org/
here's the dairy of the CAAT Thing this year.
http://www.caat.org.uk/events/diary.php
and there's a radio going to. see imc uk for links and details. Enjoy your "take back the city" but don't forget about the streets element and reclaiming either, or all the other dinky brand names.
I'll try to get to this one,I'll be at the MakePartitionHistory march,I'l try get this one in too but.Good luck to all who make it.
I thought RTS was all about annoying policemen and getting beaten to a pulp by them, then having to go on trial, and policemen saying that they used uneccessary force but not having any conviction (that would matter) being stuck to them, and then the solution that the policemen could find was that it would be easier to allow the little parties to go on and say, "well lads, didn't ye have yer fun, go on home now to Mammy". Or was that just RTS 2002? (ooohhh, now I may take a breath.)
I guess you can reclaim whatever you want within limits (not set by you) but all in all good luck, and see you at Shannon.
This event is TOMMORROW. Everyone who can please come along!
yas could have explained more what its about, but good luck :)
That i should abdicate my afternoon to the plans of others. plans they composed in secret without the authority of openness and mass inclusion.
Jesus. Change the record, would you. Not every political action has to be openly advertised beforehand. If you dont agree with it, dont get involved.
I wouldnt stress over it, to be honest. You didnt miss anything. Only a couple of hundred people showed up to it. There was an attempt to squat/occupy the old City Arts Centre on the quays, next to Moss St, but it failed, the locks had been changed I think, and there was people inside. A couple of people moved the road barriers in front of the traffic - which the Garda then moved out of the way immediately. There wasnt any proper sound system set up. I dont know what happened next, I had to meet up with other people in town.
A few hundred people isn't a bad turmout.
Well, a proper sound system by the Audio Terrriosts did turn up after you left.
I had a great day, the free gig in temple bar was great, running through the shopping centre was a laugh and just playing frisbee/soccer on a once busy street was pretty cool.
The only bad thing was when my flag(s) got thrown into the liffey! (I got them back , though without the poles).
Though, i wonder if this was the last RTS in Dublin?
Yeh this was really cool. Getting into the city arts centre would have been great but at the end of the day there was a guy squatting in there and we would have ruined it for him if we'd gone on in.
The street party was pretty cool! Much dancing to be had.
Nice one lads. Telling the whole world the building is being occupied. Solidarity!
Wait till the squatters union hears about this....
If the guy gets chucked out now, thanks to youz, are your leaders going to take responsiblity?
Who was doing the home work for this one they need a good kicking kicking.
MY DAY
Around 11.30, met up with a friend and got a luas into town
Then at 12.05 headed down to the free Ya Basta gig at the project in Temple Bar. Had to meet different people and bring them down, so unfortunately didn't see much of the gig. But what i saw was brilliant. The kids had dropped a 'Take Back The City' and a 'Space for people not profit' off the balcony. It was very well done.
At around 2.00, i made my way with a few other guys down to the spire. I say there was around 3 to 4 hundred people there. They're were 2 red/black flags, 2 pirate flags, one anarchy flag, a sound system in a trolley and a big banner saying Street Party.
We left at 2.30 and crossed the road to that street with the joyce statue, we went down it but suddenly made a right and with much confusion ran through a small shopping centre.
We made are way towards the big bridge at the City Arts Centre at Moss Street. We blocked that for around 20 mins. People began to play frisbee and soccer. We brought out some of those red traffic things to block the traffic but were taken by the police.
We then made are way down moss st. past pearse street and onto the quays beside the bridge at liberty hall. It was a brilliant sight to see the 3 or 4 hundred ya basta kids march from the opposite direction and meet us in centre. The amount of people had doubled and the atmosphere was much better.
We stayed on that quay for around 3 hours. Volleyball was played, stencilling and graffiti was done and then the audio terriosts showed up!
Then at around 6.15pm, we decided to move down the quays, past o'connell bridge and all the way down to wood quay, where we all went up into that small enclosed park. Along the way, i saw my only piece of a police/protester scuffle. All i saw was a guard taking someones flag, loads of people running over and then someone throw a beer can at the police.
I left slowly after we arrived at the park.
Even though we didn't reclaim any building for public space, i had a great day.
Well so long as YOU had a great day, just ignore everone you inconvenienced.
damien, one day out of how many? are you being a bit silly? selfish/unreasonable?
its a pity you couldnt spend the afternoon driving freely around the city ruining the air people have to breathe....thats hardly an inconvenience is it?
"the public have never even come close to supporting a candidate linked to RTS in any Irish election."
What world do you live in damien, not the real world
Instead of simply telling me I don't live in the real world perhaps you could tell me the name of the RTS candidate who won an Irish election ?
Dont think much homework or planning was done for this, people evidently didnt check out the building beforehand. I imagined that some small crew of people would be in there already, waiting for the rest to arrive, ready to throw open the doors. For all the fanfare it ended up being the same as all the other RTS's that happened before. I think its time to put RTS to sleep for a while, at least in its current incarnation.
"damien, one day out of how many?"
What sort of loon are you ? Let's say there were 400 people at the RTS event ( a huge over estimation).
Ireland has a population of around 4,000,000 ( a slight under estimation )
This means the event was supported by less than .001% of the population
Why do you think it is alright for such a tiny minority to disrupt the city ? And it's not one day out of a whole year, these idiotic events occcur every month or two, and achieve nothing.
http://www.google.ie/search?hs=jn&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial_s&q=anarchism+and+parliamentary+politics&btnG=Search&meta=
What are you trying to show me?
Nowhere does it tell me the name of an Irish election where an RTS candidate has won, or even been narrowly defeated
Shut up Damien, you annoying twat....
What a strong political arguement you make by calling me a twat.
All RTS proved yesterday was that they are an opressive force, just the same as the government.
At least you will grow out of it eventually
What a strong political arguement you make by calling me a twat.
I'm not trying to make strong political arguement. I'm calling you a twat cause you keep on going on about RTS/elections.
Now, shut up!
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