Firemount
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press release 
Wednesday February 09, 2005 16:44
by Sean Crudden - Greenore/Cooley Fisherman's Association
sean.crudden at iol dot ie
Jenkinstown, Dundalk, Co Louth.
042 9378310
"There Is No Common Land in Ireland"
A number of interesting topics were dealt with during the conduct of business at last night's meeting of Greenore/Cooley Fisherman's Association which took place in The Farm, Greenore.
At a special meeting of Greenore/Cooley Fisherman’s Association on Tuesday 8 February 2005 starting at 7.30 p.m sharp in The Farm, Greenore, the secretary - Sean Crudden - read an e-mail he had sent to The Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform on 14 January 2005 asking whether the district court had any jurisdiction on the waters of Carlingford Lough. When he pointed out that there had been no reply he was instructed by the meeting to forward the e-mail to Liz O’Donnell TD and to Leonard Hatrick, Chairperson of Ardee Town Council, to see if they separately or together could help to extract an answer from The Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform.
The secretary was also instructed by the meeting to write to Louth County Council asking it to review safety
at the seaward side of the "new" promenade in Greenore. "Craft are likely to be carried on to the rocks exposed there and to be badly damaged at night in the event of south-east gales," the chairperson, Archbishop Michael Desmond Hynes PhD OMA, warned.
Other issues discussed included safety and a project which is currently before GROUNDWORK - a cross-border development agency based in Belfast. The project if realised would involve an on-shore parking space for small craft and marine equipment + a landscaped picnic area. The development, the association hopes, will take place on an area of disowned land known as "The Cutting" adjacent to Greenore village and close to the shore.
An interesting discussion took place on the history of the occupation and "tenancies" on The Cutting which the chairman asserted was officially disowned in the late 19th century. Names mentioned were Woodneys, Lucy Woodney, Tom Goslin, Webster (who had a railway carriage on the cutting), Fergusons and Hanleys, Mick Hanley (who had a temporary shop on the cutting) and his wife Mary, John Patterson (who was the Woodneys’ heir). Pat Hanlon, treasurer of Greenore/Cooley Fisherman’s Association, recalled at the meeting that he often heard his own father saying that they (The Hanlons) had as much right to the cutting as anyone else. The chairperson said that all these huts were there until the 1970’s. Bulldozers came in from "The Ferry" on a bank holiday weekend in 1974 and changed the shape of the cutting - the chairman recalled. The chairman explained that the practice of disowning land was a device to escape paying rates. "There is no such thing as common land in Ireland," the chairman asserted. A field near the cutting belonging to Pat Hanlon is known as "Firemount."
The next meeting of Greenore/Cooley Fisherman’s Association was fixed for Tuesday 3 May 2005. in The Farm, Greenore, starting at 8.00 p.m. All members and prospective members are requested to attend.
Comments (8 of 8)
Jump To Comment: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8Thanks for editing the article. The phone number should be 042 9371310. (If I am out of the house playing golf or anything you can probably get me on 087 9739945)
I would like to see a graveyard made of the cutting as I would like to be buried there. I love the sea and like blowing plenty of wind to raise the sails of the yawls.
Hopefully I can raise some enquiry on the matter and maybe the relevant SPC rep will raise the matter at the next meeting. If you mention that I come from a business background it will throw great light on the matter.
Love from Elaine xxx
If Elaine gets her way with a graveyard on this lovely area I will walk out and into the fecking lough and hopefully there will be plenty of tears. Wise up preserve the cutting for boats and picnic area Elaine.
John
I think this is lunacy to have a graveyard on the Greenore cutting when you have the sea so close as it could be used as a graveysrd for Elaine and also be more cost effective. I feel that as a business consultant you should be well aware of this. Maybe you like a lot of wind for your sails. Please Miss Hobson on my knees I beg of you "have no graveyard on the Cutting @ Firemount." I hope that you have consulted the Earl of Firemount on this. Maybe the planners could mark out a special area for courting as it was a very popular spot in the evenings especially when dark falls. I hope thta the area remains for lovers.
Love with respect Elaine and less consultancy
John
Yes I am delighted to see an old firend of mine who I used to play hide and seek with when I lived and grew up in the village of Greenore way back in the 1940'S. Mr O'Hanlon's family originaly all of Greenore before the railway took root. Many a good evening I spent on the cutting with Patrick and the gang. And man a good bang we had with our friends on the cutting. Yes it will be great to see thta the local fisherman's committee are interested in giving the place a re vamb. Who the hell is this Elaine Hobson? I never remember her when I were around! A consultant my arse. They are ripping up the countryside for the interest of profit and destroying our natural beauty. I will get a mass siad for this lady who wants to trun the cutting into a graveyard.
Mable xxx
A meeting of the Ruling Council of Greenore/Cooley Fisherman’s Association (GCFA) took place in No 5 Anglesea Terrace, Greenore, commencing at 8.00 p.m. on Wednesday 5 July 2006.
Paddy Agnew had not been notified of the meeting.
In attendance were Sean Crudden (secretary/treasurer) and Archbishop Michael Desmond Hynes OMA (chairperson).
Minutes of meetings held on 10 April 2006 (full meeting) and on 23 May 2006 (ruling council) were read, adopted, signed.
The secretary read a letter he had written to Dr Caroline Roche, Aquafact, Galway, in connection with consultations about the "Oriel" wind-farm project off the Co Louth coast.
The secretary was instructed to write to Louth County Council seeking an extension to the length of the pier at The Cutting, Greenore.
It was decided to seek assistance from Orla Cahalane, Dundalk Media Centre, for the creation of a standard membership card for the association.
It was felt that an attempt should be made to arrange a meeting between Greenore Port authorities and GCFA, to discuss dust, developments at the port and other matters of mutual interest.
The next meeting of GCFA (full meeting) was fixed for Monday 18 September 2006 in The Broadway Bar, Greenore.
A special meeting of Greenore-Cooley Fisherman’s Association took place in the Blue Anchor, Bellurgan Point, on Monday 12 February 2007 commencing at 8.30 p.m.
Present were, Archbishop Michael Desmond Hynes OMA (chairperson), Eric Hynes, Sean Crudden (secretary).
The minutes of the previous meeting were read and signed.
The meeting heard that the Greenore Residents’ and Tidy Towns’ Association were preparing a 5 year plan and that they were holding their AGM on 22 February. It was decided to wait and see what plan might emerge from that source dealing with "The Cutting" in Greenore.
It was decided to invite Patricia Murphy and others from the Blackrock Tidy Towns to attend the next meeting of Greenore-Cooley Fisherman’s Association to discuss lifestyle issues arising out of the Oriel windfarm project.
Sean Crudden informed the meeting that a Post Office account had been opened in Jenkinstown P.O. to accommodate Greenore-Cooley Fisherman’s Association funds. Cash on hand amounted to €150.
It was decided to seek a meeting in March with the port authorities in Greenore to discuss the rocks on the shore at Greenore Point which were hampering anglers.
Eric Hynes was given two membership cards No 29 and No 30 to facilitate friends of his who might wish to become members of Greenore-Cooley Fisherman’s Association.
An angling competition mooted for April was deferred until May or June.
The names of 10 new members were approved.
The next meeting of Greenore-Cooley Fisherman’s Association was fixed for 16 April 2007 to take place in The Blue Anchor starting at 8.30 p.m.
I am trying to contact a Patrick O'Hanlon, photographer who worked for the evening standard in London but has returned to Newry recently.
Not sure if this is the same Patrick O'Hanlon mentioned but if so could you please contact me on 028 302 54524.
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