McDowell uses the old 'reverse psychology' trick speaking about the referendum in the Dail today.

by stats? Wed Apr 21, 2004 15:45

that stat of approx 432 births to non-nationals out of 60,000 sounds wrong

anyone got a more accurate figure?????

by Homer Wed Apr 21, 2004 15:55

I don't like the PDs or McDowell but the sort of heckling you hear in the Dail IS childish and dumb sometimes.

by observer Wed Apr 21, 2004 16:07

The 432 is not the number of non national births. It is the number of non-national births of those who were late booked or unbooked deliveris in the Dublin hospitals. In other wrods, this would persumably include those who allegedly come here, have their baby and then leave. It was this abuse that McDowell cited as his initial reason for the referendum.

by iosaf - subverted geo-psychology and a bit of Dr. Who or was it that master and rita? Wed Apr 21, 2004 16:36

you blue shirt of blackrock and controller of Temple More, we do play reverse psychological games with you don't we?

Our constitution provides with Malta certain family provisions, and those provisions are needed most by our brothers and sisters of Africa who are as you as most of us descended from the Rasta Man.
Believe me Michael you don't want to see the Rasta Queen.

You will play your game, and do your law bit, and you will not stop Ireland providing sanctuary to our brothers and sisters.

And I do remember suggesting to you that you resign gracefully from office, go back into a hidden room somewhere near TempleMore perhaps taking the secret service budget with you. 'Coz you are neither progressive nor democratic. And you are the direct descendent of a fascist nazi colloborator, you it appears must deal with the sins of your forebears. Wouldn't that be best done in that hidden room and not in the chamber of our elected government?

How many times does the hint have to be made?

by John Wed Apr 21, 2004 19:05

If McDowell is a racist, then so must Nelson Mandela be. When President of SA he brought in the South African Citizenship Act of 1995. It has clauses almost identical to McDowell's bill, but more restrictive. Under this Act SA citizenship is now only granted if one parent is a national or is permanent resident of SA. Under McDowell's proposal citizenship will only be granted if one parent is a national or is resident in Ireland for 3 years out of previous 4. McDowell's proposal is more liberal. Will the Left picket Nelson Mandela and chant 'racist' at him on his next visit to Dublin?

by pc Wed Apr 21, 2004 20:57

is there any clear/brief prose on it from any groups carr or something... what alternative suggestions have been made?