UCC to host another Nazi - Protest on Thursday

by Mike - SWP Wed Dec 03, 2003 21:16 mikedarby2002 at yahoo dot co dot uk

Nice one John. We are hearing conflicting stories about this one such as the talk is cancelled because they insist on bringing their own security. However BNP office in London have apparently confirmed today that he is coming. The essential agrument to make to sceptical students here is that we are not primarily against free speech(although it is not a right that fascists respect) but that nazis should not be afforded the respectability that Speaking in UCC would provide. we stopped David Irving a couple of years ago and we will do so again.

by barry bulsara Wed Dec 03, 2003 21:38

what gives the swp the right to decide who the law soc can and cannot invite.
The food science faculty tamper with dangerous bacteria all day long in order to investigate and expose its nature. Surely exposing the views of the BNP for what they are would be a gretaer victory than using the SWP brown shirts in an act of supression?

You seem completely oblivious to what you actually represent. FACISM.

by FINTAN Wed Dec 03, 2003 21:43

Your right barry. You dont need to deny the holocaust or get the right tatoos to be a facist.
Violence and supression of freedoms are all that is required.
GOOD JOP SWP

by Stephen Boyd - Socialist Party Thu Dec 04, 2003 00:30

The UCC Law Society meeting for Thursday night has been cancelled or so it seems. Extensive enquiries have been made into whether this meeting is going ahead. There is no need to give chapter and verse of the saga but the Auditor of the UCC Law Society, and a representative of the university have given a catagorical statement to the Irish Examiner that the meeting has been cancelled. A journalist from the Irish Examiner has also spoken to BNP youth organiser Tony Wentworth who as of 3.30pm today hadn't received his plane ticket from the Law Society! The UCC Law Society also told the Examiner that the meeting will instead be held in January. An article will appear in Thursday's Examiner (tomorrow) stating that the meeting has been cancelled. All indications are that this meeting is not going ahead.
The Socialist Party is proposing that a broad based "Stop the BNP Campaign" would be established in order to begin the preparation to stop Tony Wentworth from speaking in UCC in January. Various parties, groups, student societies and individuals will be contacted in the next few days with the proposal to establish this campaign in UCC and Cork City and to have a public meeting to launch it next week.

by adolf Thu Dec 04, 2003 05:42

I am sick of defering to the swp on who can and cannot speak in Cork. Why not round up those you dislike and put them in camps. U ARE THE NAZIS

by Jo - AFA Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:40

Mike - SWP

Please stop talking unadulterated horse shite. What is this
"we stopped David Irving a couple of years ago and we will do so again."?

"You" did not stop anyone, in fact the SWP attempted to prevent activists from other groups from entering the building to stop the Irving meeting. When they did so anyway the SWP stood outside with lollipops and refused to take any part in the direct action. The next morning the usual suspects were all over the media claiming 'their' victory.

Revising history is an entertaining little diversion, so you can appear big and brave to new members. It does not wash with anyone who was there.

If anyone wants to check the facts as outlined above they can contact AFA, or the Socialist Party, or SInn Féin in Cork - all of whom participated in actually stopping the Irving meeting.

by anti swp - anti swp Thu Dec 04, 2003 14:23

the swp, mick and mc cormack,are just red nazi.have no members in ucc and left the sp,also red nazi but not as bad, do all the work mick barry not to happy about that i bet.

by i - i Thu Dec 04, 2003 14:53

DO U HAVE NUMBERS FOR SP, SF AFA SO WE CAN ASK ABOUT THE SWP

by PJ Thu Dec 04, 2003 17:59

Fully agree with Fintan, Barry and Adolf. The only pity is that there isn't an Irish National Party holding meetings around the country on a regular basis to give us more opportunities to tamper with dangerous bacteria and expose its nature. Sure, they might get a councillor or two elected every now and again but that would be a small price to pay for the chance to show people how righteously indignant we are about them.

by discredited Fri Dec 05, 2003 13:09

It might be worth ye're while to read the judgement delivered against Irving in the infamous libel case. It acknowldged that Irving was a good historian and had carried out, on other occassions, strong works of hisotry. Irving was however a 'holocaust denier' and therfore the allegation was not a libel but the truth.

Didn't really discredit him though.

by adolf Fri Dec 05, 2003 14:25

whats REALLY DISCREDITING???The protests by the swp/sp/sf/ira/iplo/cie on irvings cork visit were a shot in the arm for him before the libel case. The socialists become what they detest and Irving looks like a paragon of rational discourse.

by adolf Fri Dec 05, 2003 14:27

I am glad that Ireland now has its own furher PJ who will decide for me and for all who can and cant speak. And there i was foolishly given over to looking at fundemental rights and such. Danke Mein Furher!!!!

by Curious non-Corkonian Fri Dec 05, 2003 17:47

Well, what happened then?

by DU Sam Fri Dec 05, 2003 18:56

HOUSTON (Reuters) - A Texas woman was sentenced to 10 years in jail for running over the manager of a McDonald's with her car because she wanted mayonnaise on her cheeseburger.

Waynetta Nolan, 37, showed no emotion Thursday as the sentence was read in court following a trial in which the McDonald's manager, Sherry Jenkins, said she gave Nolan the mayonnaise she requested, but she flew into a rage anyway.

"I gave her everything she asked for -- mayonnaise, no mustard, onions, everything I could possibly do for this lady. Mayo, mayo, mayo, and it's still not good enough," Jenkins told reporters outside the courtroom.

Nolan, who was convicted of aggravated assault for the April 23 incident, became so angry when a McDonald's employee told her she could not get mayonnaise that she threw her cheeseburger into the drive-through the window, witnesses said.

Jenkins tried to placate her by offering a cheeseburger with mayonnaise, but Nolan continued to make demands until Jenkins finally called police.

When she went outside to write down Nolan's license plate number, Nolan ran her over, breaking her pelvis.

Nolan testified that she was putting ketchup on her cheeseburger when she accidentally struck Jenkins.