things we might have missed.

by matt Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:38

How do you make out that Joe Higgins and Clare Daly are the first "reds" to be imprisoned in this state? Tens of thousands of Irish revolutionaries, a goodly proposrtion of them socialists of one variety or another have been imprisoned since the foundation of this state and many of them executed.

by pc Thu Oct 23, 2003 16:15

the isf after the wef was cancelled ended up being much smaller then anticipated and ill admit it didn't achieve its wish of spread politics out to the joe soaps of this world but it did get a lot of people the usual suspects and a few others in the rooms together which doesn't happen that often and was a great sucess in that sense,

linking our view of neo-libralism with peoples every day problems with getting resources and things done for people rather then profit still hasn't been achieved and is a very difficult problem .... i didn't figure out how to that while sorta helping out with the isf...

by Des Derwin Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:23

Michael O'Riordan was interned in the Curragh during the War. And lots of other reds, including my own father, who was there for two years and two months.

by Clever Dick Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:33

Have people forgotten already that we entered a new century a few years back?
The original article says that they were 'the first "reds" to be imprisoned in the Irish majority state this century', ie the 21st Century NOT the 20th.

by dickens Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:45

it seems

by Kev Fri Oct 24, 2003 13:49

in 2001 Non-payers in Cork were jailed, I don't know about the rest's political affiliations (if any), but Mick Barry is a member of the Socialist Party.

Does that mean comrade Barry gets this dubious honour?

by - Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:19

here it is Cut and Pasted to make it easier:
"They were the first "reds" to be imprisoned in the Irish majority state this century".

Now you will see a time expression at the end of the sentance which uses the noun "century" determined by "this". That means Matt, the 21st century, I am living, working, playing, and meddling in the 21st century. I spent most of my young life be it in war or peace watching fucked up 20th century minds and bodies make a complete bollox of it, because they couldn't bring their political or social interpretative tools any further than "who won WW3?".

by not so clever dick - & where is the IRA statement? Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:22

That honour goes to whomever was of Red political affiliation who and went to prison in Ireland first this century.
It would help for "concensus" if that Red, was seen as a representative of a "red" party, and it really would help if they went to prison for a "political matter" and not for dealing drugs, drunk driving, or shoplifting.

by linking Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:28

was in May.
this last weekend Indymedia ireland went off line, and the follow up has not been posted.
where is it?
what did it say?

by random input Fri Oct 24, 2003 14:59

The last P O'Neill statement was, if I undertsood correctly, a two paragraph job released just after Adams addressed the press (and before Trimble did) that basically said "we stand by what Gerry Adams says".

by not to be silenced on this one Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:31

does he?

by wolfie tone-deaf Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:38

But we stand with Enright and Larkin,
With Daly and Sullivan bold,
We will break down the English connection,
And bring forth the nation you sold.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/easterrising/songs/rs_song09.shtml

http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/March19/18hist.html

by oh yes. every single one. Sat Oct 25, 2003 23:44

lots of it about.

by P O'Neill Tue Oct 28, 2003 11:40

It is beyond the ability of the Republican Movement to clarify Iosafs statements.