by anti anti bin tax protestor - same as aboveThu Oct 16, 2003 17:42
personally as someone not from finglas or anyother loader area of dublin im pissed off that the rest of the country (and yes ireland doesnt end at de red cow),has to pay bin tax, no other representive from anyother party is fighting for no bin taxes in der local consistuency and its not because no representive of the working man exists outside of de big smoke or even out side the socailist party.its simply because bin tax are payment for a service that the state has no real reason to provide.once the basic need of sewage is cared for(no jokes about sewage and my little commentry please it wud be too easy even for indymedia peoples)and water is clean and kinda pure no one can say sweet fek all.bin tax are waste from products fuelled by a consumeristic capalist society that in reality means the right honourable and jailled mt higgins and the lovely ms daly are defending. i agree thats a extreme comaparision but isint bin protest jailling civil disobediance an extreme resort to dealing with an empty box of corn flakes
There have in fact been anti-bin tax campaigns in many areas of the country but these have generally been defeated. However both Cork and Drogheda have active campaigns. Several people have been jailed in the past in Cork (one example at http://struggle.ws/wsm/news/2001/jail_cork_march.html )
This gripping is pretty silly anyway as the abolition of the charges will mean their abolition everywhere, not just in Dublin. This is what happened with the water tax. Yoo don't see the Dubliners groaning 'lazy culchies leaving us to fight their battles for them again' do you?
by anti anti bin tax protest guyFri Oct 17, 2003 14:56
de problem is joe (qudous on an original name).
the rest of de country looks upon de bin tax protest as annoyin publicity stunt that show no respect towards the judicial process and courts of ireland.run by a belgaurd politician that on a recent visit to a nameless town in ireland recieved a grand total of four members of de public, such is de respect of mr higgins outside of our fair capital.
the truth is that taxes like this are held in urban areas that feel there proximity to middle classdom entitles them to special privalages,
1. I'm not a big fan of Joe 'virtual protester' Higgins although he has regained some of the respect I had for him before he made an ass of himself on March 1st. So I don't care how popular he is outside the capital, he is one person in a campaign involving tens of thousands.
2. You seem to have ignored the substance of my reply which is that there are STILL anti-bin tax campaigns in places outside Dublin (plus there were many campaigns elsewhere). As Cork would top the poll of 'Dublin haters' the fact that several people have been jailed for anti-bin tax protests there demolishes your 'dublin only' point.
3. I'll forgive your ignorance of Dublin class geography but the idea that Mulhuddert, Finglas or Cabra to name three areas that come up again and again are 'middle class' could only be held by the insane, the ignorant or the dumb liar.
In the crude socological definition of class the campaign is strong in 'working class areas' and weak in 'middle class areas'. Hence lots of activity in Cabra very little in nearby Drumcondra.
did anyone see an italian called Fabio? Vanessa says hello.
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There have in fact been anti-bin tax campaigns in many areas of the country but these have generally been defeated. However both Cork and Drogheda have active campaigns. Several people have been jailed in the past in Cork (one example at http://struggle.ws/wsm/news/2001/jail_cork_march.html )
This gripping is pretty silly anyway as the abolition of the charges will mean their abolition everywhere, not just in Dublin. This is what happened with the water tax. Yoo don't see the Dubliners groaning 'lazy culchies leaving us to fight their battles for them again' do you?
de problem is joe (qudous on an original name).
the rest of de country looks upon de bin tax protest as annoyin publicity stunt that show no respect towards the judicial process and courts of ireland.run by a belgaurd politician that on a recent visit to a nameless town in ireland recieved a grand total of four members of de public, such is de respect of mr higgins outside of our fair capital.
the truth is that taxes like this are held in urban areas that feel there proximity to middle classdom entitles them to special privalages,
the last line shoud read bin taxes protests.
i dont need to contradict myself further
1. I'm not a big fan of Joe 'virtual protester' Higgins although he has regained some of the respect I had for him before he made an ass of himself on March 1st. So I don't care how popular he is outside the capital, he is one person in a campaign involving tens of thousands.
2. You seem to have ignored the substance of my reply which is that there are STILL anti-bin tax campaigns in places outside Dublin (plus there were many campaigns elsewhere). As Cork would top the poll of 'Dublin haters' the fact that several people have been jailed for anti-bin tax protests there demolishes your 'dublin only' point.
3. I'll forgive your ignorance of Dublin class geography but the idea that Mulhuddert, Finglas or Cabra to name three areas that come up again and again are 'middle class' could only be held by the insane, the ignorant or the dumb liar.
In the crude socological definition of class the campaign is strong in 'working class areas' and weak in 'middle class areas'. Hence lots of activity in Cabra very little in nearby Drumcondra.
did anyone see an italian called Fabio? Vanessa says hello.
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