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Thursday May 30, 2002 11:13
by Ophir
I'm a left wing Israeli. During all the time that I voted , I have chosen Meretz, a left wing party which supports the right of Palestinian to a state and Israel returning back to the lines of 1949. Even today, I still believe in this ideas. However, if once I thought there were moral and practical reasons for this , today I'm only left with practical ones. I'm a left wing Israeli. During all the time that I voted , I have chosen Meretz, a left wing party which supports the right of Palestinian to a state and Israel returning back to the lines of 1949. Even today, I still believe in this ideas. However, if once I thought there were moral and practical reasons for this , today I'm only left with practical ones. The amount of hate I see in this site shows me that indeed there is
I'm a left wing Israeli. During all the time that I voted , I have chosen Meretz, a left wing party which supports the right of Palestinian to a state and Israel returning back to the lines of 1949. Even today, I still believe in this ideas. However, if once I thought there were moral and practical reasons for this , today I'm only left with practical ones.
I'm a left wing Israeli.
During all the time that I voted , I have chosen Meretz, a left wing party which supports the right of Palestinian to a state and Israel returning back to the lines of 1949.
Even today, I still believe in this ideas.
However, if once I thought there were moral and practical reasons for this , today I'm only left with practical ones.
The amount of hate I see in this site shows me that indeed there is litle hope for help in the world.
All the nice people that are coming to defend the Palestinian would never come and help us if we were under attack after we move out of the territories.
They want all the jwes killed ( as you can read in many articles) and our state to go away.
I think Egypt,Lebanon, Syria and the other countries have a right to exist.
They are not willing to give us a right to exist in one place in the world in which we lived for 3000 years.
People on this site are asking what choice do Palestinian have in their fight but killing and murdering children, women and man.
The answer is very clear and simple and it is amazing to see you all ignore it.
The basic of the Oslo agreement was that 2 sides can sit down and talk to solve problems without violence.
In may 2000 Ehud Barak was the PM in Israel , he made the best offers the Palestinians ever got and the most every Israeli would ever be willing to give up.
Lets assume for a minute that still the Palestinians didn't think such offers are good enough.
The choice the Palestinians had and have is to continue the Oslo agreement and work for better offers.
Instead they chose terror as a strategic choice instead of talk and peace.
Where did it get them ? Nowhere but 1700 people are dead now . 5B$ are lost .
At this time today there could have been a Palestinian state on 95% of the area with Arafat as president and Jerusalem as a capital.
1700 more people were alive and 25000 were not wounded.
Remember, Arafat didn't choose terror when Ariel Sharon was in power . He is the sole reason Sharon was elected by the Israelis. Sharon was an outcast for 18 years in Israel.
The only person that was able to bring him back to life was Arafat.
This is the same patter as in 1996.
In 1996 after the murder of Rabin Peres had the highest support rate ever ( 80%).
Hw was able to do peace with all the people support.
And than came 3 suicide bombs after the other.
In the middle of the talks , when Peres is PM.
That was the sole reason he had to go to elections and lode to Netanyahu.
Even after Sharon was elected Israel tried the talking approach for some 10 times :
- The taba agreement , Arafat broke It
- The Zini agreement , Arafat does not accept it
- The Mitchel agreement , Arafat does not accept it
- 5 cease of fire were done by Israel all answered by more bombs
In oslo the Palestinians promised free elections.
After one time they canceled the elctions.
They promised to enter 10,000 guns , they entered 40,000.
They promised to stop calling for the destruction of Israel . They continued to call for it on a daily basis.
We can never trust , or at least not for a very long time.
Thr problem is we can't trust the international community either.
Take lebanon for example. When we occupied part of Lebanon ( just 5 miles by the way ), thw whole world said we are wrong to be there and that once we go out there will be peace.
Today we see that the Hizbulla keep trying to kill us without any regard to the fact we left every inch of lebanon according to U.N resolution.
Where is France today ? Where is Britian ? Are they taking the bombs from lebanon for us ?