Socialist Voice online

by Kev - various Sat Jun 14, 2003 17:02

http://www.socialistparty.net

by Hebe Sat Jun 14, 2003 18:58

In his article on EvianMichael O'Brien could have mentioned the Police attack on peaceful demonstrators on the bridge. But instead he praises the restraint of the police and attacks the Black Bloc. At least he doesnt call them cop agents.

by Magneto Sat Jun 14, 2003 19:07

Michael O'Brien of the SP praises the Cops restraint!To see what Amnesty thinks of this you should click on the link.

And the SP say they dont side with the cops!

http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=51842&start=40

by mw Sat Jun 14, 2003 20:26

Magneto was it not the Swedish Social Democrats (your party)that gave flowers to the cops who shot live amo and injured protesters at Gothenburg as they returned to their barracks?

by hunter Mon Jun 16, 2003 00:44

that shut him up

by Magneto Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:03

I am a member of the Irish Labour Party not of a Swedish Party. The fact remains that Amnesty International condemned the behaviour of the cops at Evian BUT Michael O'Brien of the SP praised the restraint of the cops.

Why dont you deal with that?

by Morpheus Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:12

Are you or are you not a member of the same international as the Swedish party?

by Michael O'Brien - Socialist Party Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:16

People should read the article. No praise is attributed to the cops. The point being made is that at Gothenburg and Genoa the capitalist establishment tried to smash the anti capitalist movement by repression and failed. In Geneva during the mass mobilization the state were nowhere to be seen. This is a retreat on their behalf and a victory for the movement.

by Magneto Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:21

Amnesty say different? Are you saying that Amnesty are lying?

by Magneto Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:23

As you well know its a very loose federation. The Irish Labour Party is not the Swedish Social Democratic Party. Only SP fools would try to claim that Labour is responsible for what a Swedish Party does.

by Durutti Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:27

The 'Socialist' Party have been claiming for the past week that the Black Bloc are infiltrated by cops. They say that this widely accepted as being true.

But when lampooning comments saying the same are put up about the SP they are deleted. Why? Surely either both sets of allegations should be deleted or both sets should be left up.

by Legal Eagle Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:37

The SP have got the comments deleted by sending several emails to the editoral list threatening to sue indymedia. An example is included below.

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From: OisÌn Kelly
mailto:oisinkelly@hotmail.com

Editors,

I wish to draw your attention to a comment on IMC Newswire that is libelous in my opinion. "Durutti" in a comment on the article "electronic voting" made accusations that the Socialist Party were involved in electoral fraud.

"SP Hackers
by Durutti Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:38pm

The SP hacked the computers in Dublin North and almost got Clare Daly elected."

In this thread "Ray" also made similar accusations of electoral fraud and intimidation of polling clerks.

"I know someone who works in the counting centres
by Ray Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:44pm

And he said that Joe Higgins only got elected in the first place because of SP ballot-stuffing. My source was threatened into silence, so I can't give any more details."

On the Newswire there have been threats against Socialist Party members. "Durutti" made the following remark in a comment to the article "SWP split over Direct Action":

"when the Black Bloc arrive then there will certainly be trouble. It wont be just restricted to your paper sellers..." (Fri, Jun 13 2003, 2:34pm)

I will say it again to the editors, these accusations are NOT satire, they are libelous comments that are published on a website that YOU are editors of.

I think it would be a good idea if you remove ALL comments and articles that may put the IMC in risk of legal action.

I have a copy of this communication on paper.

Yours Sincerely,

OisÌn Kelly,
14-6-2003

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by Sharon Mon Jun 16, 2003 14:04

There is no need for the police to infiltrate the sp as they openly inform the police on other protesters anyway as peter Hadden did in Belfast during the Anti War demonstrations.