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Socialist Voice online

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Saturday June 14, 2003 10:32author by John Doe Report this post to the editors

well nearly!

The latest issue of the Socialist Party paper, Socialist Voice, is now partially online.

And before any conspiracy folks out there jump up and down, this is not censorship or hiding something, it's just it takes me some time to get the articles online. The rest will follow over the weekend.

There are approx. another 12 articles to follow, including on the Iraq war, N Ireland, etc.

John D14

Related Link: http://www.geocities.com/socialistparty/voice.htm
author by blissetpublication date Sat Jun 14, 2003 13:47author address author phone Report this post to the editors

author by blisset (slight return)publication date Sat Jun 14, 2003 15:38author address author phone Report this post to the editors

author by Hebepublication date Sat Jun 14, 2003 18:58author address author phone Report this post to the editors

In his article on EvianMichael O'Brien could have mentioned the Police attack on peaceful demonstrators on the bridge. But instead he praises the restraint of the police and attacks the Black Bloc. At least he doesnt call them cop agents.

author by Magnetopublication date Sat Jun 14, 2003 19:07author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Michael O'Brien of the SP praises the Cops restraint!To see what Amnesty thinks of this you should click on the link.

And the SP say they dont side with the cops!

http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=51842&start=40

Related Link: http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=51842&start=40
author by mwpublication date Sat Jun 14, 2003 20:26author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Magneto was it not the Swedish Social Democrats (your party)that gave flowers to the cops who shot live amo and injured protesters at Gothenburg as they returned to their barracks?

author by hunterpublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 00:44author address author phone Report this post to the editors

that shut him up

author by Magnetopublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:03author address author phone Report this post to the editors

I am a member of the Irish Labour Party not of a Swedish Party. The fact remains that Amnesty International condemned the behaviour of the cops at Evian BUT Michael O'Brien of the SP praised the restraint of the cops.

Why dont you deal with that?

author by Morpheuspublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:12author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Are you or are you not a member of the same international as the Swedish party?

author by Michael O'Brien - Socialist Partypublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:16author address author phone Report this post to the editors

People should read the article. No praise is attributed to the cops. The point being made is that at Gothenburg and Genoa the capitalist establishment tried to smash the anti capitalist movement by repression and failed. In Geneva during the mass mobilization the state were nowhere to be seen. This is a retreat on their behalf and a victory for the movement.

author by Magnetopublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:21author address author phone Report this post to the editors

Amnesty say different? Are you saying that Amnesty are lying?

author by Magnetopublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:23author address author phone Report this post to the editors

As you well know its a very loose federation. The Irish Labour Party is not the Swedish Social Democratic Party. Only SP fools would try to claim that Labour is responsible for what a Swedish Party does.

author by Duruttipublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:27author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The 'Socialist' Party have been claiming for the past week that the Black Bloc are infiltrated by cops. They say that this widely accepted as being true.

But when lampooning comments saying the same are put up about the SP they are deleted. Why? Surely either both sets of allegations should be deleted or both sets should be left up.

author by Legal Eaglepublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 10:37author address author phone Report this post to the editors

The SP have got the comments deleted by sending several emails to the editoral list threatening to sue indymedia. An example is included below.

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From: OisĖn Kelly
mailto:oisinkelly@hotmail.com

Editors,

I wish to draw your attention to a comment on IMC Newswire that is libelous in my opinion. "Durutti" in a comment on the article "electronic voting" made accusations that the Socialist Party were involved in electoral fraud.

"SP Hackers
by Durutti Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:38pm

The SP hacked the computers in Dublin North and almost got Clare Daly elected."

In this thread "Ray" also made similar accusations of electoral fraud and intimidation of polling clerks.

"I know someone who works in the counting centres
by Ray Thu, Jun 12 2003, 2:44pm

And he said that Joe Higgins only got elected in the first place because of SP ballot-stuffing. My source was threatened into silence, so I can't give any more details."

On the Newswire there have been threats against Socialist Party members. "Durutti" made the following remark in a comment to the article "SWP split over Direct Action":

"when the Black Bloc arrive then there will certainly be trouble. It wont be just restricted to your paper sellers..." (Fri, Jun 13 2003, 2:34pm)

I will say it again to the editors, these accusations are NOT satire, they are libelous comments that are published on a website that YOU are editors of.

I think it would be a good idea if you remove ALL comments and articles that may put the IMC in risk of legal action.

I have a copy of this communication on paper.

Yours Sincerely,

OisĖn Kelly,
14-6-2003

author by ecpublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:31author address author phone Report this post to the editors

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author by Sharonpublication date Mon Jun 16, 2003 14:04author address author phone Report this post to the editors

There is no need for the police to infiltrate the sp as they openly inform the police on other protesters anyway as peter Hadden did in Belfast during the Anti War demonstrations.

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