France is no longer an ally of the United States, says Pentagon adviser

Chiracs just playing games

by Ocean

Wed Feb 05, 2003 00:11

thefridgedoor at hotmail dot com

You'll just have to forgive my cynical ass but i reckon that Chirac is just playing games by appearing to oppose the build up to war. he's not even opposing the build up to war, he's just refusing to give the build up to war unilateral support.

France threatening to use their veto at the UN is just a pathetic ego driven demand to be recognised as an international player. A public bluff to facilitate behind the scenes maneouvering for advantage. america is too powerful not to get sucked off by other countries (including france) but that doesn't mean that france can't play hard to get while wetting its knickers in anticipation.

Ocean

Same article appeared later

by Ray

Wed Feb 05, 2003 10:30

Pentagon adviser: France 'no longer ally'
by Charles, no head Wed, Feb 5 2003, 1:44am
Ireland, on the other hand,is prepared to shoot protestors to please King George II

Pentagon adviser: France 'no longer ally'
By Martin Walker
UPI Chief International Correspondent
From the International Desk
Published 2/4/2003 3:41 PM

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030204-031831-1626

WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday.

Richard Perle, a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration and now chairman of the Pentagon's Policy Advisory Board, condemned French and German policy on Iraq in the strongest terms at a public seminar organized by Iraqi exiles and American Middle East and security officials.

But while dismissing Germany's refusal to support military action against Iraq as an aberration by "a discredited chancellor," Perle warned that France's attitude was both more dangerous and more serious.

"France is no longer the ally it once was," Perle said. And he went on to accuse French President Jacques Chirac of believing "deep in his soul that Saddam Hussein is preferable to any likely successor."

French leaders have insisted the country will oppose any military action against Iraq without a second resolution by the United Nations Security Council, where it holds one of five crucial veto powers. Last November France did vote for Resolution 1441, which promised "serious consequences" if Iraq did not cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors verifying that Iraq has indeed dismantled its programs for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

"I have long thought that there were forces in France intent on reducing the American role in the world. That is more troubling than the stance of a German chancellor, who has been largely rejected by his own people," Perle said, referring to the sharp electoral defeat suffered by Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's party in state elections Sunday.

Although he is not an official of the Bush administration, Perle's position as the Pentagon's senior civilian adviser gives his harsh remarks a quasi-official character and reflects the growing frustration in the White House and Pentagon with the French and German reluctance to support their U.S. and British allies.

"Very considerable damage has already been done to the Atlantic community, including NATO, by Germany and France," Perle said.

"But in the German case, the behavior of the Chancellor is idiosyncratic. He tried again to incite pacifism, and this time failed in Sunday's elections in Hesse and Lower Saxony. His capacity to do damage is now constrained. Chancellor Schroeder is now in a box, and the Germans will recover their equilibrium."

Perle went on to question whether the United States should ever again seek the endorsement of the U.N. Security Council on a major issue of policy, stressing that "Iraq is going to be liberated, by the United States and whoever wants to join us, whether we get the approbation of the U.N. or any other institution."

"It is now reasonable to ask whether the United States should now or on any other occasion subordinate vital national interests to a show of hands by nations who do not share our interests," he added.

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Whose Interests?
by American Wed, Feb 5 2003, 2:37am

1). Richard Perle----One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the
chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli
government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's
office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught
him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the
Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam.
Perle is one of the leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war
mongering within the administration and now in the media.

http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=52480&group=webcast

Has America Been Hijacked by Israel?
by John Wed, Feb 5 2003, 5:11am
strmica@yahoo.com

Whose War are we fighting?

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Has America Been Hijacked by Israel?
by John Wed, Feb 5 2003, 5:13am
strmica@yahoo.com

Whose War are we fighting?

THEY ARE DESTRUCTORS OF AMERICA!

1). Richard Perle----One of Bush's foreign policy advisors, he is the
chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. A very likely Israeli
government agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in
the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing
Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He
later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam. Perle is one of the
leading pro-Israeli fanatics leading this Iraq war mongering within the
administration and now in the media.

2). Paul Wolfowitz----Deputy Defense Secretary, and member of Perle's
Defense Policy Board, in the Pentagon. Wolfowitz is a close associate of
Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military. His sister
lives in Israel. Wolfowitz is the number two leader within the
administration behind this Iraq war mongering.

3). Douglas Feith----Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the
Pentagon. He is a close associate of Perle and served as his Special
Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel extremist, who has
advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the
extremist group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks
Jews that don't agree with its extremist views. Feith frequently speaks at
ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which only has
one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is
representing Israeli interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his
appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments Manufacturer." Feith
basically represents the Israeli War Machine. Feith, like Perle and
Wolfowitz, are campaigning hard for this Israeli proxy war against Iraq.

4). Edward Luttwak----Member of the National Security Study Group of the
Department of Defence at the Pentagon. Luttwak is reportedly an Israeli
citizen and has taught in Israel. He frequently writes for Israeli and
pro-Israeli newspapers and journals. Luttwak is an Israeli extremist whose
main theme in many of his articles is the necessity of the U.S. waging war
against Iraq.

5). Henry Kissinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Kissinger sits on the
Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle. For detailed information about
Kissinger's evil past, read Seymour Hersch's book (Price of Power: Kissinger
in the Nixon White House). Kissinger had a part in the Watergate crimes,
Southeast Asia mass murders, Chile dictatorship, and more recently served as
Serbian Dictator Slobodan Milosevic's Advisor. He consistently advocates
going to war against Iraq. Kissinger is the Ariel Sharon of the U.S.

6). Dov Zakheim----Under Secretary of Defense, Comptroller, and Chief
Financial Officer (CFO) for the Department of Defense. He is an ordained
rabbi and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship. Zakheim attended attended
Jew's College in London and became an ordained Orthodox Jewish Rabbi in
1973. He was adjunct professor at New York's Jewish Yeshiva University.
Zakheim is close to the Israeli lobby.

7). Kenneth Adelman-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Adelman also sits on
the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle, and is another extremist
pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq. Adelman
frequently is a guest on Fox News, and often expresses extremist and often
ridiculus anti-Arab and anti-Muslim views. Through his hatred or stupidity,
he actually called Arabs "anti-Semitic" on Fox News (11/28/2001), when he
could have looked it up in the dictionary to find out that Arabs by
definition are Semites.

8). I. Lewis Libby -----Vice President Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff. The
chief pro-Israel Jewish advisor to Cheney, it helps explains why Cheney is
so gun-ho to invade Iraq. Libby is longtime associate of Wolfowitz. Libby
was also a lawyer for convicted felon and Israeli spy Mark Rich, whom
Clinton pardoned, in his last days as president.

9). Robert Satloff----U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was
the executive director of the Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington
Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's "experts" come
from this front group, like Martin Indyk.

10). Elliott Abrams-----National Security Council Advisor. He previously
worked at Washington-based "Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center.
During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant Secretary of
State, handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an
important role in the Iran-Contra Scandal, which involved illegally selling
U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the contra rebels
fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively
deceived three congressional committees about his involvement and thereby
faced felony charges based on his testimony. Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to
two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of
community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted
Abrams a full pardon. He was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the
Reagan Administration's State Department.

11). Marc Grossman-----Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He
was Director General of the Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources
at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the pro-Israel Jewish
officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher
posts.

12). Richard Haass-----Director of Policy Planning at the State Department
and Ambassador at large. He is also Director of National Security Programs
and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He was one of
the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who
sat on the National Security Council, and who consistently advocates going
to war against Iraq. Haass is also a member of the Defense Department's
National Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

13). Robert Zoellick-----U.S. Trade Representative, a cabinet-level
position. He is also one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Bush
(Jr) Administration who advocated invading Iraq and occupying a portion of
the country in order to set up setting up a Vichy-style puppet government.
He consistently advocates going to war against Iraq.

14). Ari Fleischer----Official White House Spokesman for the Bush (Jr)
Administration. Prominent in the Jewish community, some reports state that
he holds Israeli citizenship. Fleischer is closely connected to the
extremist Jewish group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics, who follow the
Qabala, and hold very extremist and insulting views of non-Jews. Fleischer
was the co-president of Chabad's Capitol Jewish Forum. He received the Young
Leadership Award from the American Friends of Lubavitch in October, 2001.

15). James Schlesinger-----One of many Pentagon Advisors, Schlesinger also
sits on the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board under Perle and is another
extremist pro-Israel advisor, who supports going to war against Iraq.
Schlesinger is also a commissioner of the Defense Department's National
Security Study Group, at the Pentagon.

16). Mel Sembler-----President of the Export-Import Bank of the United
States. A Prominent Jewish Republican and Former National Finance Chairman
of the Republican National Committee. The Export-Import Bank facilitates
trade relationships between U.S. businesses and foreign countries,
specifically those with financial problems.

17). Michael Chertoff ----Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal
Division, at the Justice Department.

18). Joshua Bolten----Bush's Chief Policy Director, banker and former
legislative aide. Prominent in the Jewish community.

19). Steve Goldsmith----Senior Advisor to the President, and Bush's Jewish
domestic policy advisor. He also serves as liaison in the White House Office
of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (White House OFBCI) within the
Executive Office of the President. He was the former mayor of Indianapolis.
He is also friends with Israeli Jerusalem Mayor Ehud Olmert and often visits
Israel to coach mayors on privatization initiatives.

20). Adam Goldman-----White House's Special Liaison to the Jewish Community.

21). Joseph Gildenhorn-----Bush Campaign's Special Liaison to the Jewish
Community. He was the DC finance chairman for the Bush campaign, as well as
campaign coordinator, and former ambassador to Switzerland.

22). Christopher Gersten-----Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary,
Administration for Children and Families at HHS. Gersten was the former
Executive Director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, Husband of Labor
Secretary, Linda Chavez, and reportedly very pro-Israel. Their children are
being raised Jewish.

23). Mark Weinberger-----Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Tax Policy.

24). Samuel Bodman-----Deputy Secretary of Commerce. He was the Chairman and
CEO of Cabot Corporation in Boston, Massachusetts.

25). Bonnie Cohen-----Under Secretary of State for Management.

26). Ruth Davis-----Director of Foreign Service Institute, who reports to
the Office of Under Secretary for Management. This Office is responsible for
training all Department of State staff (including ambassadors).

27). Lincoln Bloomfield-----Assistant Secretary of State for Political
Military Affairs.

28). Jay Lefkowitz-----General Counsel of the Office of Budget and
Management.

29). David Frum-----White House speechwriter.

30). Ken Melman-----White House Political Director.

31). Brad Blakeman------White House Director of Scheduling.

32). Colin Powell-----Secretary of State, ex-chairman of Joint Chiefs of
Staff, of Jamaican origin, he has one Jewish ancestor on his father's side.
He grew up in a heavily Jewish-populated neighborhood in New York, and
speaks Yiddish. The first day of being picked (12/16/2000) he said he wanted
to toughen sanctions on Iraq, and will work to "re-energize the sanctions
regime," even though he knows the embargo has killed 2 million Iraqi
civilians.

Now that Bush has hired these pro-Israel Jewish lobbyists to the highest
positions in the land, they have escalated the fanatical war-mongering
against Iraq, all the while they support the Israeli war-criminal Sharon in
his terrorism and mass-killings of Palestinian civilians. It seems that the
price of the acheiving the White House involves selling out to the Israeli
lobby, much like Clinton, before him.

There are some hopeful signs coming out of the adminstration, however.
Despite this strong pro-Israeli presence within the administration, it seems
that Bush has not yet jumped on their band-wagon, and instead is listening
to the sensible leaders and advisors, like the Pentagon's military brass,
the U.S. intelligence community, other groups within the federal government,
as well as from America's friends and allies around the world. No one wants
this war except Israel, its agents, and its lobbies around the world.

The question that remains unanswered is, will the Israeli lobby use (or
create) some scandal to blackmail Bush into attacking Iraq, like they used
Monica Lewinsky against Clinton to force him to launch "Operation Desert
Fox," in December 1998? Watch how many of the media outlets and some
politicians are blaming Bush for the all the corporate scandals and the huge
recession the U.S. is going through.

What Bush needs to do is use some common sense, and have some courage to
stand up to these pro-Israel bullies, and act in the best interests of
America, and not Israel. The first act for Bush should be to replace these
pro-Israeli fanatics with patriotic Americans.

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Ireland no longer ally
by Marcie Boyer Wed, Feb 5 2003, 9:22am

Not only France.

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Third time lucky for this UPI article

by Ray

Wed Feb 05, 2003 15:55

Read the newswire before posting

Pentagon prepares war plan against FRANCE...Says 'must be contained'.
by Hmmmmm Wed, Feb 5 2003, 2:45pm
As the US prepares for war in Colombia North Korea and Iraq a new boogieman has emerged: "France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday" Having said this, the Pentagon adviser goes on to suggest the US never again go to the security council before going to war.

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030204-031831-1626r

WASHINGTON, Feb. 4 (UPI) -- France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday.

Richard Perle, a former assistant secretary of defense in the Reagan administration and now chairman of the Pentagon's Policy Advisory Board, condemned French and German policy on Iraq in the strongest terms at a public seminar organized by a New York-based PR firm and attended by Iraqi exiles and American Middle East and security officials.