Sandbags at Shannon to defend death in Bagdad

by Brian J Goggin Wed Feb 05, 2003 02:30

"The Irish Army were sent there to prevent further criminal damage by the bullies and thugs that have no respect for other peoples opinions. I am glad that they will prevent further mayhem by this rent a mob."

"Rent" is a payment. I have seen no evidence that the protestors were paid. Have you? If not, you might usefully clarify your description.

As for "no respect for other peoples opinions", you could say that several Iraqis, and other people, do not want Iraq to be bombed or invaded. Does that opinion count?

"Most people in Ireland do not want a war , but equally most people were sickened by the scum that called themselves 'peace' protestors."

I think you're right. I think that the majority of Irish people don't want a war in the same way that they do want universal brotherhood: it would be nice, but not if they have to make any sacrifices to get it. Sacrifices by Iraqis don't count: as far as I can see the majority of the Irish people manage to forget that Iraqis are going to be killed. But they won't see the bodies on their television programmes, so the killing won't matter.

bjg

by Brian J Goggin Wed Feb 05, 2003 02:25

"It would appear that Saddam is the good guy, and lets forget about the hundreds of thousands of Iranians, Iraqis and Kurds whose blood is on his hands."

I don't recall seeing anybody arguing that. What you will find is that several people do not accept that the world is divided into good guys and bad guys, with the USA and its allies having a monopoly on the good. You will also find people who know quite a bit more about Iraq than appears in the mass media.

"He posesses the means to wage a brutal war on his neighbours"

A couple of points on that. First, lots of countries "possess the means to wage a brutal war". The USA, to choose a country at random, has more nuclear warheads than every other country put together. It also has chemical and bacteriological weapons, not to speak of the world's most powerful conventional armed forces. Should we wage war on the USA to force it to disarm? The point is that a state's mere possession of armaments, though regrettable in itself, does not justify others' intention to wage war on that state.

Second, Iraq probably has far fewer arms than other countries. And so far there is no evidence that it has any so-called "weapons of mass destruction" (which are, I presume, to be contrasted with the cuddly weapons owned by the USA and the UK, which kill nobody except evil tyrants and bring about universal peace and prosperity).

"and yet, in some strange Felliniesque way, all that is forgivable if his opponent is the US."

Well, some people, including me, would point out that the USA has invaded more countries than any other since WW2, overthrown more governments, installed and supported more dictators, run a school for torturers and put itself outside many of the treaties that other countries thought would help to bring about peace.

"Based on what I read on this site, nazism, fascism, and communism are all forgivable if they are opposed by the US."

Is communism a crime?

bjg

by Private Sam-ette - Irish/American Army Wed Feb 05, 2003 01:45 Dod Park Gate Street 666-666-666

In case you guys don't know the Irish Army are serving under the control of "US Central Command " in Afghanistan. So it's a small step for (subhu)mankind to takings orders ar Shannon.

The only reason you have soldiers instead of Garda is when you want someone shot. Otherwise it is a Police matter. There is no reason that the arda should not be able to make the airport secure with the resources already available to them. But perhaps Bertie didn't have time to mumble that out to headmaster Hass today as he barked orders to his wire-haired terrier. ( Well they call Blair a Poodle)

by Black Frank Wed Feb 05, 2003 00:58

"Who now have made Shannon Airport a possible terrorist target"!!
So, it wasn't before then? If you say so.
btw, I also have a job and home.
Ta

by Amanda Wed Feb 05, 2003 00:56

The Irish Army were sent there to prevent further criminal damage by the bullies and thugs that have no respect for other peoples opinions. I am glad that they will prevent further mayhem by this rent a mob. Most people in Ireland do not want a war , but equally most people were sickened by the scum that called themselves 'peace' protestors.

by Richard Hollingsworth Wed Feb 05, 2003 00:46 rhollin588 at msn dot com

I just found this website and having read a few of the "articles" I am astounded at the low level of discussion and the seeming absence of reality. It would appear that Saddam is the good guy, and lets forget about the hundreds of thousands of Iranians, Iraqis and Kurds whose blood is on his hands. He posesses the means to wage a brutal war on his neighbours and yet, in some strange Felliniesque way, all that is forgivable if his opponent is the US. Based on what I read on this site, nazism, fascism, and communism are all forgivable if they are opposed by the US.

God help us.

by Joe McDermott Tue Feb 04, 2003 22:09 joefish at indigo dot ie

Same you you all, behaving with all the brainpower of a sandbag ! Bin Laden & Saddam would be proud of you.

by Brian J Goggin Tue Feb 04, 2003 21:19

... I suggest that the activists were acting to prevent "CRIMINAL damage to another nations property" in Iraq.

As for "the Crusties down there were Overpowering GARDA the upholders of the Law in this nation", it seems that you are unaware both of what happened at recent incursions and of certain other episodes in our recent history.

"Well Done you Jobless homeless Fools"

I am none of those. Why do you make such assumptions?

bjg

by Sean O'Donnel Tue Feb 04, 2003 20:23

A Sub division of The US Army?? What are you on about you Muppet!! The army were called in to prevent CRIMINAL damage to another nations property in Shannon Airport Because the Crusties down there were Overpowering GARDA the upholders of the Law in this nation. This step was the last the govenrnment wanted to take. Because of actions carried out by "Peace" camp Hippies, which amounted to nothing less than terrorism the Irish Army has had to be called in to protect Private property, Gardai and IRISH people, put at risk by Wasters like you. Who now have made Shannon Airport a possible terrorist target. Well Done you Jobless homeless Fools.