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RTE SUPPORT THE WAR & MURDER

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday January 14, 2003 15:51author by Limerick Lady

RTE refuse to have Tim Hourigan live on Primetime tonight. Tim's views to be pre recorded from studio in Limerick.

It has just been announced that RTE will pre record Tim Hourigan in a studio in Limerick at 8:30pm and then have Gay Mitchell & Brian Cowen discuss his viewpoints on air at 9:30pm. The reasons they cite are technical - something could go wrong if Tim was live on air from Limerick. You bet that something could have gone wrong! The truth could have come out! Its a disgrace. They could have asked him to come up to Dublin. Hey they could even get him on a plane from - wait for it - Shannon at this short notice. If you have the chance ring RTE and let them know.

This is blatent bias on the part of RTE in support of Brian Cowan and the Irish State. The first obvious evidence of this was on Fridays late late show when Pat Kenny refused to introduce Tim Hourigan, Mary Kelly, Conor Cregan or any of the Peace Camp people to the nation on the late late show.

What a disaster. Some day!!!

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author by renegade FF - anti-biffo-spindoktorpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:07author address author phone

You can phone their office through the RTE switchboard at (01)2083111

Be nice to the ladies at the switch and they will put you through.

Ask for either Primetime office or just Michael Heney.

author by Bystanderpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:08author address author phone

Inundate Prime Time with phone calls asking them to explain their decision. It mightn't make them change their mind but it could signal to them that they way out of step with the anti-war drift of public opinion, not to mention the fact that they are engaging in censorship - so much for "Hard-hitting" current affairs coverage.

RTE's switchboard number is 01 2083111

author by blissetpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:09author address author phone

They could bring him to donnybrook - for gawds sake it is only 3.20pm and programme is 9.30

author by katherine harford - shannon peace camppublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:19author address author phone

RTE a state owned company are obviously in cohoots with the government on the issue of Shannon Warport. i was one of the contributors from the shannon peace camp at the late late show on friday night, the blatent way in which the whole debate was set up, proved to me then that RTE were protecting the powers that be. the late late show and prime time in my view loose their credibility as topical programms. for prime time to do this so blatenly is very sad for main stream media coverage today.

Related Link: http://shannonpeacecamp.org
author by Raymond McInerneypublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:35author address author phone

Tim should stay focus and outline all the facts. The other two (Cowen and Mitchell) may try to discredit some of Tim's comments but at least hopefully RTE will still air them in their entirety.

Best of Luck, Tim.

author by iosafpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:37author address author phone

if he goes into make-up etc., at 20h30 then that´s only one hour till Cowen.
On reflection it might be a good thing.
It marginalises Shannon to a local studio.
Gives the impression that this is a rural issue.
However viewers are used to this tactic, and have shown in many research projects to give more sympathy to interviewees in local studios.
This is what I meant about two hours ago in my comment that Tim will be played with. TV people do this. TV is a psychological weapon for all invovled even those who speak for us must pass through much. I would rather go talk to Garda Whiteacre and pals in the Phoenix Park and play their silly mind games then go near RTE.
TV is toxic.
We have had commercial satelite access in Europe since 1989. Only last year did the anti-capitalist and anti-war community get uncensored access to sattelite facilites. [Sherwood you might recall got a channel on Hotbird6 for the ESF/Hub].
Way down the list after porn, porn, porn, porn, sport sport sport, and porn oh and God. God gets more time than sport but less than porn.
Tim should still be sleeping by the way.
And new posts maybe should go as comments on previous. He will naturally want to read our words before hand, this is another pre-game tactic by those silly careerist media types.
If You phone RTEs offices be nice to the switchboard, all staff Tim will meet later shall be effected by this "ripple feedback".
Remember "lovely does it".

author by renegade FF - anti-biffo-spindoktorpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:39author address author phone

heneym@rte.ie

author by Daithi O Conaillpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:40author address author phone

Looks like someone's nobbled Prime Time again. I don't agree that it's because RTE is a state company that this has happened - TV3, a private company is as bad. It's the attitude of certain people in RTE management that anything left of Pat Rabbitte's tie is dangerous and while Pleasant Pat gets ample airtime anyone genuinely leftwing is airbrushed.

author by iosaf jedi of mass psychological experiencepublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:52author address author phone

which means all the people getting excited about this right now.
That is called psy-op.
TV is toxic.
there is a very old saying that when one sups with the devil use a long spoon.
The thoughts today will excite a lot of comment and emails to RTE and others.
That is a lot of quickly fired venom.
And it will be a permanent record.
Tim is tired. should be sleeping. This is a tactic to mess him up too. If anyonew is willing to accept my advice, make sure Shannon is watched carefully in the next 24hours.
Think like your enemy.
TV is toxic!

author by I ohas if please check yr @email.com addresspublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:54author address author phone

author by Joe Sheehanpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 16:57author address author phone

The latest is that Prime Time are threatening to pull the slot if the calls persist.

author by C.publication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 17:34author address author phone

RTE will not pull the Shannon story. They may censor Tim's piece - but this will be self defeating.

Anybody who makes the phone calls could they keep us informed here on what the response is: getting some strange statements from RTE at the moment. Apparently only 'politicians' are allowed on Prime Time.

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 18:00author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone

I've called three times now and been ducked or told they'll get back to me as the person handling this is out of the office or on another line.

author by Bystanderpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 18:02author address author phone

Called twice - both times told "we'll get back to you".

author by Raypublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 18:16author address author phone

Strange shennanigans at RTE in connection with Cowen VS Hourigan Row scheduled for tonight
by Blisset Tue, Jan 14 2003, 5:07pm
At this link : http://www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=23923 Excerpt from Iosaf's Contributions "This is what I meant about two hours ago in my comment that Tim will be played with. TV people do this. TV is a psychological weapon for all invovled even those who speak for us must pass through much. I would rather go talk to Garda Whiteacre and pals in the Phoenix Park and play their silly mind games then go near RTE. TV is toxic."

related link: www.indymedia.ie/cgi-bin/newswire.cgi?id=23923

author by limerick1919publication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 18:50author email limerick1919 at hotmail dot comauthor address author phone

If this is pulled someone should tip off national print media. If it isn't then they should also be made aware that RTE have stopped the debate or did Gov spin doctors?

author by Terrypublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:02author address author phone

Tim should refuse to do a pre-recording because if Cowen is on after,
they will have a hour for their team of 30 or 40 to twist and distort
the facts and Tim will not be in a position to correct them.

Last speaker always has the advantage. And RTE are giving this to Cowen

The debate should be live.

By refusing the pre-recording, with a released statement as to why, this
will make it even more embarrsing for the government.

author by proverb lover grewat discussion forum atpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:10author address author phone

Is iad na muca ciúine a itheann an mhin.

It is the quiet pigs that eat the meal.

author by Chuckpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:14author address author phone

Just spoke to a weary sounding Michael Heney of Prime Time. The anguish in his voice was evident at another call about why there is no live debate and allegations of conspiracy. He stated that there would be no debate because "..that's the way things are; the people at Shannon won't be disappointed..".

I'm afraid the anti-war movement is already disappointed by an RTE who'll only go half way and a minister shitting his cacks of an upstart from Limerick.

When I asked who was going to respond to Biffo Cowen, he said Gay Mitchell from Fine Gael would be. You can get off the ground now and wipe the tears from yer eyes (as I nearly had to do).

author by Despublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:17author address author phone

I agree with the comment that Tim should refuse to participate if his contribution is recorded. If RTE won't let him go "live", then we should raise the roof, to the maximum extent possible.
Our "free media" is not as free as some people seem to think.

author by Justin Moran - Sinn Feinpublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:35author email maigh_nuad at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone


I just want to get something straight here. Was Tim told, personally, by RTE that he would be going head to head in a debate with Cowen and then sometime this afternoon RTE fucked him over?

Or did RTE tell him they wanted him on Prime Time, that Cowen would be on and some-one drew a conclusion out of that?

Merely curious here as to who said what to who

author by Terrypublication date Tue Jan 14, 2003 19:40author address author phone

Well whatever the answer Tim should only accept a live debate for reasons
I gave above.

Is the fact RTE are saying they can't do a live debate due to technical reasons
not an indication that this is a position they have backed down from?

author by Kevin Doneganpublication date Wed Jan 15, 2003 00:56author email kevindonegan at yahoo dot comauthor address author phone

I used to work as a radio producer for a National Public Radio station in the US. It was not uncommon for certain guests (usually quite high-ranking public officials) to refuse to go on live against another guest or to take audience questions and so on. From time to time we still put them on if they seemed really crucial to the story, even though it made for a less engaging/entertaining show.

It's more than possible that Cowan refused to go live against Hourigan becuase that would be just too unpredictable for the govt. on this issue, and likely that RTE agreed to those conditions. Whereas he would know that a FG TD wouldn't be as likely to ask the really hard questions.

Kevin Donegan



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