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A look at the Apocalypse hype surrounding the year 2012
Tuesday November 13, 2012 15:06 by Brian Nugent
Just a look at all the hype involving the 2012 date to see is there anything behind it. This article also describes the general prophecies of the various Churches with regard to the 'End Times' or a time of Divine 'Chastisement' which comes into this question.
It surely hasn't escaped the reader's attention that for some reason there is an enormous amount of hype about December 2012 as if it was to be the date of the Apocalypse or end of the world etc. We see this in big Hollywood movies and in fact the number of TV and film stories about an Apocalyptic type world that are coming out now are just incredible to this observer anyway. Did it ever happen before that a major big star type film would paint a picture of a terrible disaster affecting the world and they would title the film 2012 when they are making it in just 2009, it seems bizarre does it not?
What is behind all these prophecies of doom anyway? Well I think you could break it down into three sections where these various groups seem to prophesise some difficult times to occur in the near future:
By the Occult I mean those groups floating around nowadays - and some are clearly quite powerful groups, how else do they manage to get such important world leaders to dance around a giant owl in Bohemian Grove for example? - that are into Paganism/Satanism/Luciferianism/Theosophical Society/OTO/people who follow the Kaballah/Secret Societies etc etc. There seems to be some sense that these groups are winding up towards some event that is to occur in late 2012 or maybe a little later. If you read some of that kind of literature you will be struck I think about how they presume that we shortly will be inhabiting a kind of New World where the old one was somehow washed away and that this process seems slated to start in late 2012 or even earlier. They sometimes call this a kind of global awakening or heightened consciousness. I think basically what is meant by that is that mankind all over the world will be scared by some trauma into coming together more, feeling a kind of shared fear as a result of some event and hence becoming more amenable to a world government. A kind of shared global sense of fear leading to a shared global sense of togetherness which in turn would drive a thrust towards a world government. They don't quite phrase it like that but I think thats what it boils down to. Anyway you can follow some of what these groups say in the following videos and links:
Princess Kaoru Nakamaru 1937- ,
speaking in this video: http://youtu.be/XKZVpAT7EH0 , is a Japanese TV journalist and interviewer who is reported to be the grand daughter of Emperor Meiji (1852–1912) of Japan, through the latter's son Tatsukichirou Horiwaka. She repeats there in early 2012 what she stated previously, I think in 2007, that there is to be some kind of event around the winter solstice in 2012 (21st of December). We don't find out what it actually is but she says it will involve losing electricity at any rate.
Anglo Saxon Mission
Here is another example of the Occult leaks relating to 2012. Its sometimes referred to as the 'Anglo Saxon Mission' and its stated to be the account of an ex British military figure who attended a Masonic/Livery Company meeting in the City of London in 2005. Here we get a lot of detailed references although its all anonymous and mixed in with clearly nonsense about aliens etc. At any rate here are some of the interesting bits:
"They needed either the Iranians or the Chinese to be guilty of first use nuclear weapons in order to justify the next stage. (My information shows that the Iranians do indeed have a tactical nuclear capability.) The next stage would be a measured regional nuclear response, enough to cause an immediate ceasefire. This ceasefire would create the time needed to put in place unified totalitarian western governments. Thereafter, or concurrent, biological weapons would be used against the Chinese population. This would then set of another chain of events that would collapse the whole Chinese political and social infrastructure. This was mentioned as: Disease, followed by wide spread food shortages, followed by mass starvation. Somehow, this would then cause the Chinese military to attack eastern Russia. The biological agents were described as being flu like and would spread like wild fire. It shocks and sickens me to describe these events. It shocks me even more to know that plausible events are being manipulated to cause the extinction of a whole part of the human race.
The evidence was clear. There does indeed exist a Timeline for future conflict that this country, the UK, was using this as some sort of world government business plan and many millions would die as a result. The plan is openly described in these circles as the Anglo Saxon Mission."
( http://the2012scenario.com/accountability/warmongering/...an-2/ and see also http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/anglo-s....html for more details on the background to this document.)
We know this is an Occult reference because we get the same New Agey vague language about raised 'consciousness' that characterises the Occult references to 2012:
"And in any event, physical life is only a very, very small part of who we really are, so how much importance do you place on that, knowing that when you walk from this door into the next door, you’re back home anyway?
And I say might knowing full well that I can be certain within my own self that that sort of thing will happen, and it’s just the pain that we have to go through of reaching that point where this regime will no longer have the power that they’ve got.
People [waking] up, finding out what’s going on around them and really having a good look, and raising their conscious levels as they’ve never done before, and then everything will click into place quite quickly."
At any rate he is also talking about 2012 as the seminal year:
"B: Okay. What’s the timing for this series of events, as best you know?
W: As best I know… 18 months. It’s definitely before 2012.
W: Or around 2012, sometime in that year.
B: Now somebody reading this will ask: Okay, so this is what they were discussing in 2005. "
Terence McKenna (1946-2000)
The whole 2012 thing seems to have been started many years ago by the son of an Irish travelling salesman who settled in ranching country in Colorado, one Terence McKenna. He was big into every New Age, Occult and Kaballistic thing going and said about 2012:
"At 6 a.m. on December 21, 2012, he predicts, humanity will confront the "transcendental object at the end of history.""( http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/mckenna.htm ).
He deducted this partly from the Mayan Calendar and partly from some, very speculative, mathematical reasoning based on some Eastern symbols. What he thought will happen at that time exactly is, as far as I know, unknown because we only ever get these vague references to an end of an era, or ending of the age of Pisces and beginning of that of Aquarius etc.
Another one of the early pioneers of the whole 2012 phenomonon was José Argüelles who states that he received information about the date in a vision as long ago as 1987.
An example of the way that 2012 is seen as important for followers of the Kaballah can be seen at this, somewhat vague, video: http://youtu.be/oBTo5FFGsYw . Btw I want to strongly emphasise that we are talking here about Occultic Kaballah enthusiasts and not Jews in general, that's obvious in the video because the description refers you to a site on Magick and also mentions Tarot reading.
New Age Guru
Here is another reference from a New Age type Indian Yogi, Yogiraj Siddhanath, which is a little clearer and more detailed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_play...K6560 .
Its clearly a very important date for the Theosophical Society as you can see in this video: http://youtu.be/_Sob1KT7VaM . Basically its seen as a date when our old certainties, and maybe posessions, get washed away and we enter a kind of higher state of consciousness etc.
As regards the Ordo Templi Orientalis (O.T.O.) I notice that 'The Disinformation Company' brought out a film on the 2012 predictions and said it was an important date (the film is called '2012: Science or Superstition' http://2012rising.com/article/2012-science-or-superstit...-film and you can see other references to it here: http://www.disinfo.com/2009/11/how-to-sell-an-apocalypse/ ) and they in turn tend to give a lot of publicity to O.T.O. concepts and personalities on their website at disinfo.com. Also the great hero of the O.T.O. is an Anglo-Irish Occultist by the name of Aleister Crowley who designed a set of Tarot Cards which some people interpret as encoding some references to 2012:
"Aleister Crowley is revealing that the Christian belief of the Second Coming of the historical figure Jesus Christ at the End of Times is identical to the dead and rebirth of the Sun at the Great Celestial Conjunction. The life of Christ closely parallels the life of the Egyptian mythical figure Horus. Also Horus was born from a virgin mother named Isis. He was born on the 25th of December, four days after the winter solstice when the sun was reborn in the annual cycle and started to rise again in the sky. On the winter solstice of era-2012 the Sun is not only reborn in the annual cycle but also in the larger precession cycle since it signals the start of the next precession cycle!
I believe that what Crowley may have wanted to express with this card is that the return of Christ at the End of Times and the current Great Celestial Conjunction are in fact one and the same events."
( http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/Tarot%20and%202012.html )
At any rate its obvious that the whole 2012 thing is being driven by Occultic groups and, as the above quote indicates, it seems they are even trying to popularise the notion that the Second Coming will start, in some sense, around 2012. Which brings us to our second group:
PREDICTIONS AMONG THE SMALLER PROTESTANT/CHRISTIAN GROUPS
While neither this group, nor Catholics, are talking specifically about the date 2012 nonetheless if you follow some of the talk involving the smaller Protestant or Christian groupings (I am not talking here about groups like the Anglicans or Presbyterians say, we are referring here to, for example, the Pentecostal groupings, Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses) you will notice how often they seem to assume that we are living now in the 'end times'. By 'end times' they don't mean the end of the world as such, at least most don't mean that, they mean that we are living in the times foretold by St John the Apostle and Evangelist in his book of the Bible called the Apocalypse. In the opinion of some this book envisages a timeline going something like this:
1. Various signs would make evident that we are living in the end times, including storms, natural disasters and unfortunately evil running riot across the world.
2. Possibly the restoration of the Jews to their Homeland is taken as a sign.
3. Like point 1, Christians would find themselves living in difficult times, a kind of period of Tribulation maybe.
4. Depending on the Church some think that a period of 'Rapture' is predicted in the Bible, leading up to the final steps.
5. The Anti-Christ arrives.
6. The Second Coming of Our Lord.
This viewpoint is in contrast to mainstream Protestant groups and the Catholic Church who recognise, roughly, that this timeline will at some point occur but they don't say it will occur now in our era.
On this subject probably the most interesting Church to look at is the Catholic one because here recent supernatural revelations can, sometimes, be taken into account whereas most Protestant Churches would say that the 'age of revelation' is over and is only confined to Biblical times and hence that Book is the only source of prediction and prophecy etc. In the Catholic case you can, in certain ciurcumstances, take into account 'private revelation' meaning modern apparitions of Our Lady or Our Lord etc. Here are a few statements from sources like this, starting with a 17th century fully Church approved revelation in Ecuador:
Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres 1563-1635,
seen here: http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x229/brianhere/Sor_M...a.jpg , received the following messages, among others, from Our Lady on the 21st of January 1610 in Quito in Ecuador:
"...and from shortly after the middle of the 20th century, in what is today the Colony and will then be the Republic of Ecuador,
As for the Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolises the union of Christ with His Church, it will be attacked and deeply profaned. Freemasonry, which will then be in power, will enact iniquitous laws with the aim of doing away with this Sacrament, making it easy for everyone to live in sin and encouraging the procreation of illegitimate children born without the blessing of the Church. The Catholic spirit will rapidly decay; the precious light of Faith will gradually be extinguished until there will be an almost total and general corruption of customs. Added to this will be the effects of secular education, which will be one reason for the death of priestly and religious vocations.
The Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed, and despised, for in this Sacrament, the Church of God and even God Himself is scorned and despised since He is represented in His priests. The Devil will try to persecute the ministers of the Lord in every possible way; he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to deviate them from the spirit of their vocation and will corrupt many of them. These depraved priests, who will scandalise the Christian people, will make the hatred of bad Catholics and the enemies of the Roman Catholic and Apostolic Church fall upon all priests."
(Chiesa Viva, Feb 2009, available at: http://www.ourladyofgoodsuccess.com/frames-3-4-2005/chi...h.pdf )
Alois Irlmaier 1894-1959,
seen here: http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x229/brianhere/12829...c.jpg , a humble craftsman from Bavaria received some prophetic ability after he first observed a painting of Our Lady come alive and in the 1950s he left these predictions of the future:
"1. First there's an economic vitality like never before.
2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before.
3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.
4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.
5. It comes a massive inflation. Paper money loses its value more and more.
6. Soon follows the revolution.
7. Then overnight the Russians raid the West.
(... meaning World War III which would be ended by the Three Dark Days)
Sister Elena Aiello 1895-1961, seen here: http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x229/brianhere/Mothe...7.png .
Born in Montalto Uffugo, which is near Cosenza in Calabria in Southern Italy, she was beatified in 2011. She suffered from the stigmata and also had many visions and communications from both Our Lord and Lady. Except for the first quote, which is from Our Lord, all the rest are communications she received from Our Lady:
Behold my child, see to what ends the sins of man have reduced me. The world has lowered itself in overflowing corruption. The governments of the peop1e have risen like demons incarnated, and, while they speak of peace they prepare for war with the most devastating implements to destroy peoples and nations. Men have become ungrateful to My Sacred Heart, and abusing My Mercy, have transformed the earth into a scene of crime.
Numerous scandals are bringing souls to ruin particularly through the corruption of youth. Stirred up, and unrestrained in the enjoyment of the pleasures of the world, they have degraded their spirit in corruption and sin.
The Church is opposed, and the priests are despised because of the bad ones who give scandal. Help Me, by suffering, to repair for so many offenses, and thus save AT LEAST IN PART, humanity precipitated in a slough of corruption and death.
CLOUDS WITH LIGHTNING FLASHES OF FIRE IN THE SKY AND A TEMPEST OF FIRE SHALL FALL UPON THE WORLD. THIS TERRIBLE SCOURGE, NEVER BEFORE SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF HUMANITY, WILL LAST SEVENTY HOURS. GODLESS PERSONS WILL BE CRUSHED AND WIPED OUT.
The justice of God is weighing upon the world. Mankind, defiled in the mire, soon will be washed in its own blood, by disease; by famine; by earthquakes; by cloudbursts, tornadoes, floods, and terrible storms; and by war. But men ignore all these warnings, and are unwilling to be convinced that my tears (Weeping Madonna of Sicily?), are plain signs to serve notice that tragic events are hanging over the world, and that the hours of great trials are at hand.
Everything is in suspense, like a thread; when this thread breaks, the justice of God will fall like a thunderbolt and will complete its terrible course of purification.
The world will be once more afflicted with great calamity; with bloody revolutions; with great earthquakes; with famines; with epidemics; with fearful hurricanes; and with floods from rivers and seas. But if men do not return to God, purifying fire will fall from the Heavens, like snowstorms, on all peoples, and a great part of humanity will be destroyed!
No longer do men speak according to the true spirit of the Gospel. The immorality of the times has ‘reached a peak. But men do not listen to my motherly warnings, so the world must soon be purified.
RUSSIA WILL MARCH UPON ALL THE NATIONS OF EUROPE, PARTICULARLY ITALY, AND WILL RAISE HER FLAG OVER THE DOME OF ST. PETER’S. Italy will be severely tried by a great revolution, and Rome will be purified in blood for its many sins, especially those of impurity! The flock is about to be dispersed and the Pope must suffer greatly.
The only valid means for placating Divine Justice is to pray and do penance, returning to God with sincere sorrow for the faults committed, and then the chastisement of Divine Justice will be mitigated by mercy. Humanity will never find peace, if it does not return to my Immaculate Heart as Mother of Mercy, and Mediatrix of men; and to the Heart of my Son Jesus!
How youth lives in perdition! How many innocent souls find themselves enwrapped in a chain of scandals. The world has become as a flooded valley, overflowing with filth and mud. Some of the most difficult trials of Divine Justice are yet to come, before the deluge of fire.
I, for a long time, have advised men in many ways, but they do not listen to my maternal appeals, and they continue to walk the paths of perdition. But soon terrifying manifestations will be seen, which will make even the most obdurate sinners tremble!
Great calamities will come upon the world, which will bring confusion, tears, struggles and pain. Great earthquakes will swallow up entire cities and countries, and will bring epidemics, famine, and terrible destruction ESPECIALLY WHERE THE SONS OF DARKNESS ARE, (pagan or anti-God nations).
In these tragic hours, the world has need of prayers and penance, because the Pope, the priests, and the Church are in danger. If we do not pray, Russia will march upon all of Europe, and particularly upon Italy, bringing much more ruin and havoc! Hence the priests must be in the front line of defense of the Church, by example and sanctity in life, for materialism is breaking forth in all nations and evil prevails over good.
The rulers of the people do not understand this, because they do not have the Christian spirit; in their blindness, do not see the truth.
In Italy, some leaders like rapacious wolves in sheep’s’ clothing, while calling themselves Christians — open the door to materialism, and, fostering dishonest actions, will bring Italy to ruin; but many of them, too, will fall in confusion.
People pay no attention to my motherly warnings, and thus the world is falling headlong evermore into an abyss of iniquity. Nations shall be convulsed by terrible disasters, causing destruction and death.
Russia, spurred on by Satan, will seek to dominate the whole world and, by bloody revolutions, will propagate her false teachings throughout all the nations, especially in Italy. The Church will be persecuted and the Pope and the priests shall suffer much.
Many iniquitous and wicked leaders of the people, who live and drag along with them their people outside the laws of God, showing themselves in sheep’s clothing, while being rapacious wolves, have ruined society, stirring it up against God and His Church.
How can the world be saved, from the disaster that is about to crash down upon the misleading nations, if man does not repent of his errors and failings? The only salvation is a complete repentance and return to God, and a true devotion to my Immaculate Heart, particularly in the daily recitation of my Rosary.
Once there was the chastisement by water, but if there is not a returning to God, there will come the chastisement by fire, which will cover the streets of the world with blood.”
Sister Agnes Sasagawa Katsuko 1930-
seen here: http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv303/parousie/Japon...r.jpg .
Our Lady speaking to this nun in Akita, Japan on October 13th 1973, which apparition in June 1988 was approved by Cardinal Ratzinger as "reliable and worthy of belief" having been earlier approved by Bishop Ito the local bishop:
"As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by my Son."
Sister Lucia dos Santos 1907-2005, of Fatima.
pictured here: http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x229/brianhere/lucia.jpg .
She was one of the three people, the other two being her cousins Jacinta (1910-1920) and Francisco Marto (1908-1919), that saw Our Lady at Fatima and in a later interview with Father Fuentes she said:
"Father, the most Holy Virgin is very sad because no one has paid any attention to Her Message, neither the good nor the bad. The good continue on their way, but without giving any importance to Her Message. The bad, not seeing the punishment of God actually falling upon them, continue their life of sin without even caring about the Message. But believe me, Father, God will chastise the world and this will be in a terrible manner. The punishment from Heaven is imminent.
Tell them, Father, that many times the Most Holy Virgin told my cousins Francisco and Jacinta, as well as myself, that many nations will disappear from the face of the earth. She said that Russia will be the instrument of chastisement chosen by Heaven to punish the whole world if we do not beforehand obtain the conversion of that poor nation.
Father, the Most Holy Virgin did not tell me that we are in the last times of the world, but She made me understand this for three reasons.
The first reason is because She told me that the devil is in the mood for engaging in a decisive battle against the Virgin. And a decisive battle is the final battle where one side will be victorious and the other side will suffer defeat. Also, from now on we must choose sides. Either we are for God or we are for the devil. There is no other possibility.
The second reason is because She said to my cousins as well as to myself, that God is giving two last remedies to the world. These are the Holy Rosary and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. These are the last two remedies which signify that there will be no others."
The third reason is because in the plans of Divine Providence, God always, before He is about to chastise the world, exhausts all other remedies. Now, when He sees that the world pays no attention whatsoever, then as we say in our imperfect manner of speaking, He offers us with ‘certain fear’ the last means of salvation, His Most Holy Mother. It is with ‘certain fear’ because if you despise and repulse this ultimate means, we will not have any more forgiveness from Heaven, because we will have committed a sin which the Gospel calls the sin against the Holy Ghost. This sin consists of openly rejecting, with full knowledge and consent, the salvation which He offers. Let us remember that Jesus Christ is a very good Son and that He does not permit that we offend and despise His Most Holy Mother. We have recorded through many centuries of Church history the obvious testimony which demonstrates by the terrible chastisements which have befallen those who have attacked the honor of His Most Holy Mother, how Our Lord Jesus Christ has always defended the honor of His Mother."
( http://www.fatima.org/essentials/opposed/frfuentes.asp )
Its amazing that many people who are trying to highlight the message of Fatima are now holding conferences with the title: "the last chance." They can sense this mood that I am talking about in this article:
"We all sense that world events are building to a climax. The year 2012 is seen by many as a
turning point in human and cosmic history. But we need no Mayan calendars, no astronomical
calculations, no psychic predictions to know that we have reached the end of the line, where
human wisdom has been exhausted.
Our Lady told Sister Lucy of Fatima that the devil is in “the mood for a final battle.” A
When asked about the Third Secret of Fatima, whose full contents are still being kept
from us, Sister Lucy said, “IT’S IN THE APOCALYPSE.” The Apocalypse is the last book of
the Bible. It tells what will happen in the End Times.
WE ARE APPROACHING A FINAL RECKONING!"
( http://www.fatimayourlastchance.com/ )
You can read more about Fatima and its famous miracle here: http://www.churchinhistory.org/pages/booklets/apparitions(n)-1.htm . The Third Secret of Fatima was supposed to have been released in the year 2000 but in fact many feel that only a part of it was. The rest of it it seems was like Garabandal and Akita as you can see in this lecture by Fr Gruner here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NkyQcyQXog . Apparently it even predicts the paedophile scandals in the Church and predicts that the apostasy in the Church "will begin at the top." You can hear about much more Catholic prophecies in the same vein at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gt68gyVusw .
But the most interesting and amazing of the Catholic prophecies is certainly to be found at Garabandal which is a small village in the mountains of Northern Spain.
Here many visions were imparted to Mari Loli Mazón (1949–2009), Jacinta González (1949- ), Mari Cruz González (1950- ), and Conchita Gonzalez (1949- ), pictured here: http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x229/brianhere/garab...d.jpg , none of whom are related to one another but all four come from this small mountain village.
First of all we should point out that Garabandal has neither been approved nor rejected by the Catholic Church but it was endorsed by Padre Pio who obviously is a very important modern saint. (Joey Lamingino was told explicitly by Padre Pio that Garabandal was authentic as you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1RvmS7NjuU .
Donal Enright, the man interviewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HeFTR8myfw , was also told that by Padre Pio: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxEqRpcBy-o . Its also reported that the Garabandal visionaries were mentioned in Padre Pio's will and that they received some other communications from the Capuchin friends of Padre Pio after the latter's death: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20633&mi...num=5 .) So the truth is that it has received a kind of imprimatur from Padre Pio, who is obviously a very important saint in the Church, if not from official Church authorities.
As regards what actually happened at Garabandal there is a lot of information on this somehwat complex story available on the net like for example in these videos: http://www.garabandal.us.com/video_films/films_video_pl....html , http://www.garabandal.org/News/Garabandal_Warning_Mirac...shtml and http://youtu.be/0ovCnebg-PM . For some more detail you might like to read the diary of Conchita Gonzalez which she kept at that time: http://www.davidtlig.org.uk/conchitadiary.pdf .
But probably the most important part of this story is that the aforementioned Conchita recieved the following Message from Our Lady at Garabandal on the 18th of June 1965:
"As my message of October l8th has not been complied with and has not been made known to the world, I am advising you that this is the last one. Before, the cup was filling up. Now it is flowing over. Many cardinals, many bishops, and many priests are on the road to perdition and are taking many souls with them. Less and less importance is being given to the Eucharist. You should turn the wrath of God away from yourselves by your efforts. If you ask His forgiveness with sincere hearts, He will pardon you. I, your mother, through the intercession of Saint Michael the archangel, ask you to amend your lives. You are now receiving the last warnings. I love you very much and do not want your condemnation. Pray to us with sincerity and we will grant your requests. You should make more sacrifices. Think about the passion of Jesus."
Specifically we are given this timetable from Garabandal:
1. There will be a time of 'tribulation' where the Catholic faithful in particular, but actually the whole world, will go through some terrible times which may even include Communism 'coming back' (and this was stated in the early 60s) and taking over the world. This is stated to be advancing inexorably now.
2. Then just when things seem at there very worst God will give people a 'warning' (in Spanish 'Aviso') of the state of each of our souls which may serve to bring people back to the faith.
3. After the warning a miracle will be performed at the Pines in Garabandal, at a day in the future known to the visionary Conchita (and probably then in her life time and also in the life time of Joey Lamingino (1928- )), which will leave a permanent sign.
4. If both the above events do not suceed in bringing people back to the faith then a 'Chastisement' will occur whereby God will severely punish mankind. This will involve a huge catastrophy, including the death of millions, but it will have a totally supernatural origin and pattern, not a nuclear war for example.
And that is basically the most elaborate, clear and detailed prophecy of future events that you will find anywhere. Basically all of these Catholic prophecies seem to be saying the same thing, that we are in an era where the Man Above is getting very fed up and has an axe suspended over the heads of all our necks ready to fall at a moment's notice if things get any worse from his point of view.
Well enough of the waffling says you, what do I really think will happen?
First of all I think that sometimes you come across eras in history where you get the same doom laden atmosphere(say, to an extent, before WWI and before the English Civil War and Irish 1641 Rebellion) and of course the end of the world never happened, and isn't going to happen now btw, but major cataclysmic events did happen. Its like some people can sense these things, that so many feel this in the air right now is not actually to be dismissed completely.
Secondly consider this fully approved apparition of Our Lady at La Salette in the South of France in 1846, where she explained that the potatoes were found rotting in the fields because:
"People do not observe the Day of the Lord. They continue to work with out ceasing on Sundays. Only some older women go to Mass in the summer. And in the winter, when there is nothing else to do, they go to Church to ridicule religion. Lenten time is ignored. Men swear, taking the Name of God in vain. The disobedience and disregard of God’s commandments are the things that make the hand of My Son heavier."
( http://www.piercedhearts.org/treasures/shrines/la_salet...e.htm )
So you can see there how what would now be considered almost run of the mill type sins seem to draw down some serious wrath from the Man Above and consequently what must He be thinking now?
In otherwords its intuitive to think that if you believe in God, and acknowledge the things that anger Him as being the same as what traditonally was taught by the major Christian religions, then it must be the case that this generation is skating on thin ice and likely to face some pretty serious catastrophy. That's only logical and so we can kind of see the logic behind the Catholic prophecies like Garabandal and hence would be inclined to believe them.
Lastly I would cast a kind of conspiratorial as well as quizzical eye on all these characters from the Occult talking endlessly about 2012, do they know something we don't? In otherwords is there some 'natural' or 'man made' origin behind all their predictions rather than a supernatural one? Some group somewhere isn't thinking of planning something for this time and is leaking the information around for some reason? Well I take that cynical view to be honest and for that reason also I would be a bit worried about what is coming down the tracks.
So hence I am not a complete skeptic here, I think there could be something afoot. And no I haven't the foggiest idea of what this impending catastrophy actually is but I think some preparations like planning for an eventuality where the electricity might be gone for a long time doesn't seem that bad an idea?
I wouldn't hazard a guess as to the exact date either, as I see it it could be before December 2012 or after it, maybe in 2013? The last time we had anything like this kind of atmosphere was in the year 2000 and of course nothing happened but something quite major did happen in the following year on 9/11 so it could end up being something like that?