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Workers' Party boss linked to counterfeit 'super dollars'

category national | miscellaneous | news report author Tuesday August 20, 2002 13:15author by Six Cleaning Women - and a Chaplainauthor address Killed in Aldershot by Official IRA Bomb

Fake cash trail from Ireland went all around the world

Most of us probably thought the Official Republican Movement had given up on the money making business after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the tale of the fake fivers and workers' party printing press - apparently not!

Workers' Party boss linked to counterfeit 'super dollars'

Sunday August 18th 2002

THE president of the Workers' Party, Sean Garland, has been placed in the centre of an international counterfeiting operation producing tens of millions of US $100 bills in league with former Russian KGB agents, according to evidence given in court.

Mr Garland has been under investigation for almost a decade by United States Secret Service agents tracking the source of a counterfeiting operation, believed to be based in former Soviet countries.

Former Official IRA members who ran a counterfeiting operation in Dublin in the early 1980s fled after they were exposed by gardai but continued their operations from eastern Europe with the aid of ex-KGB contacts.

US sources say the counterfeiters were assisted in transporting and laundering the near-perfect $100 bills by North Korean officials who used diplomatic bags to ferry the counterfeits around the world. The US Secret Service has traced the bills from the Philippines to Europe.

North Korea and China are the only two remaining Communist states that continue to have "fraternal" relations with the Workers' Party.

US and British sources say the counterfeiting operation may be the biggest in history. The currency notes produced by the counterfeiters have become known as "super dollars" because of their near-perfect quality.

Details of the international counterfeiting ring emerged during a three- month court case in Britain which ended last month. A former KGB agent, wanted in Armenia in connection with two contract killings, was sentenced to nine years imprisonment for his part in distributing counterfeit notes with a face value of $27m.

Worcestershire Crown Court heard that David Levin, 36, and two other men collected the counterfeit dollars from an Official IRA man who brought the currency from Ireland to Birmingham. Levin and two English criminals, Mark Adderley, 44, and Terence Silcock, 57, laundered the money through banks, bureau de change and travel agents.

The court heard that Silcock had direct dealings with Sean Garland, who was described in evidence as "top jolly" of the Official IRA.

Silcock personally admitted receiving $4.2m in fake dollars. They then sent "clean" currency back to Moscow keeping a commission, believed to be around 45 per cent.

The Court heard that detectives from the British National Crime Squad (NCS) worked closely with the US Secret Service during a three-year investigation after one of the $100 bills turned up in Birmingham in 1998. It was spotted by a bank teller who drew it to the attention of local police who called in the US authorities.

At first the bill fooled the US agents because it was of such high quality. Only under further forensic examination was it found to be fake. The British police investigation, known as Operation Mali, involved officers posing as criminals interested in buying the counterfeit notes.

When the British police contacted the US Secret Service whose responsibilities including providing the bodyguard for the US President and for tracking dollar counterfeiting they found the Americans had been tracking the same counterfeiting operation since the late 1980s.

The super dollars first emerged in the Philippines in the 1980s and since then have turned up around the world. In May 2000, German customs officers seized fake notes with a face value of $250,000 at the Czech border. All the notes came from the same source.

Sean Garland was at the centre of covert US surveillance operation in May 1997 when a spy plane picked up secret communications between him and a senior Chinese Communist official.

A declassified National Security Agency (NSA) report released last year said: "Garland is suspected of being involved with counterfeiting US currency, specifically, the Supernote, a high-quality counterfeit $100 bill."

The US Air force RC-135 reconnaissance plane picked up details of communications between Garland and the director of the International Liaison Department of the Chinese Communist Party. The discussions were described as "political in nature". Garland and the remnants of his Workers' Party developed links with China and North Korea after the collapse of their previous sponsor, the Soviet Union.

The Chinese official later visited Ireland as a guest of the Workers' Party.

Garland admitted last year that he was a director of a company, registered in Dublin, called GKG Comms International which described itself as being "involved in sourcing power projects in China and Eastern European countries". He said the company had stopped trading some years previously.

He was previously a director of a company called Repsol. As well as being a legitimate publishing company, mainly producing left-wing material for the Workers' Party, Repsol rented a warehouse at Hanover Quay in Dublin which was used to house the Official IRA's counterfeiting operation. Gardai raided the warehouse in November 1983 and seized $1.5m worth of high quality counterfeit $5 notes.

One of three printing presses found in Hanover Quay had previously been housed in the Workers' Party headquarters in Gardiner Place, gardai later found.

On Friday night, John Jefferies, press officer for the Workers' Party said: "From what I know of Sean Garland personally and from what I know about the Workers' Party, this is outlandish.

"Every Ard Comhairle meeting I have ever been at has been a tortuous process of trying to find out where we are going to get a few bob from. This idea of fanciful amounts of money is just outlandish. The amount of money that we spent in the last general election was just a drop in the ocean. It would be {ñE}5,000 per constituency maximum," he said.

Mr Jefferies added: "So you are talking peanuts when it comes to the money in the Workers' Party. The story from what you have outlined seems off the wall."

Mr Garland was unavailable for comment.

WILLIE KEALY

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Fake cash trail from Ireland went all around the world

Sunday August 18th 2002

IN the late 1980s the head of Benjamin Franklin on the US $100 bill grew a little.

Most US citizens didn't notice this attempt by the American government to undermine the most sophisticated counterfeiting operation ever encountered by the US Secret Service. The change was designed to make it easier to catch counterfeiters operating out of former Soviet Russia and, it's also believed, North Korea.

How much success the move had has never been revealed. However, in 1999 the US authorities found that a 'big-head' note which had caught the eye of an experienced bank teller in the West Midlands of England was a fake. The counterfeiters had spotted the change and adapted their printing presses accordingly.

The US Secret Service has spent the last 15 years trying to track down what they regard as the world's largest and most successful dollar counterfeiting operation. Untold millions are involved. US authorities believe the international forging operation has its origins in Dublin in the early 1980s. An undercover Garda operation in 1983 turned up three printing presses in a warehouse on the Dublin quays producing thousands of fake Irish #5 notes. A bale of fivers with a face value of #1.5m was seized just as the forgers were prepared to release the counterfeits into the Christmas shopping season.

The head forger, an Official IRA man from Co Cork, fled before gardai could track him down and could not be found. Except, that is, by some of the other conspirators in the counterfeit operation.

It is believed the Corkman was taken behind the Iron Curtain with the assistance of East German secret police. There was already a link between the East Germans and the Officials' counterfeiters. It is believed the special paper needed for the counterfeiting operation may have been supplied by East German agents.

For years, little was heard of the former Official IRA man but throughout the 1980s and early 1990s more counterfeit currency turned up on both sides of the border: sterling notes in Northern Ireland and punts in the Republic. The suspicion was that the counterfeiter was still in business.

According to police sources in Northern Ireland, the notes were being smuggled into Belfast by figures associated with the Workers' Party returning from visits to Eastern Europe.

It has now emerged that the master counterfeiter had turned his attention to the much more lucrative and equally easy-to-copy US $100 bills, the common currency of Europe's underworld when trading in drugs and other forms of organised crime.

By the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, US Secret Service agents learned the Irish counterfeiters had linked up with former KGB agents to step up their operation. Mutual friends in the last remaining closed communist country, North Korea, were providing the counterfeiters with a foolproof exit route from Russia by using diplomatic bags.

As co-operation between the US agents and the new democratic Russian government grew, it is believed the counterfeiting moved out of Russia, initially to Denmark and eventually to North Korea. The $100 bills began turning up around the globe. Production, according to a US source, was on an industrial scale and there was concern that the glut of notes could affect the currency market. Former KGB agents who moved into organised crime took over control of the operation and used their networks in Europe and abroad to spread the notes.

The sums involved are massive. The recent trial of three men in Worcester, England, heard that they alone had handled fake dollars with a face value of $28m over a period of only a few years.

US agents believe the core of the counterfeiting operation consists of ex- Communists and Marxists who maintained their hatred of capitalism while making millions from the exploitation of the monetary system at its core. They worked alongside Russian Mafia who plundered billions of dollars worth of resources from their own country before beginning lives of luxury in the West.

David Levin, a former Armenian KGB agent who was imprisoned for nine years last month for his part in laundering $28m worth of forged notes, enjoyed the fruits of capitalism to the fullest. He drove both a Jaguar S- type and a Mercedes.

After his operation was breached by National Crime Squad officers based in Birmingham, police followed his supply route to Moscow where undercover officers, supported by Russian police, were directed to a train station locker where they recovered $70,000 worth of the highest quality fakes, detectable only by trained experts.

Levin's trial at Worcester Crown Court heard that members of the Official IRA acted as middlemen. Levin and his associates laundered the cash through banks and exchange bureaux around the Midlands. They paid about 55 per cent of face value an exceptionally high tariff for counterfeit notes, reflecting the exceptionally high quality of the goods.

The US Secret Service investigation has taken agents around the world but it is believed they have yet to succeed in detecting the whereabouts of the master forger and his new centre of operations. His secrets are protected by former spies who are as sophisticated in their counter- surveillance techniques as any experts produced by the West.

The Secret Service has turned up a bewildering range of figures used by the counterfeiting ring: from a quiet middle-aged couple living in a Paris suburb to a former Australian trade unionist believed to have been heavily involved in distributing the fake bills through the Far East.

One of the first detected notes appeared in the Philippines in the late 1980s. The Worcester Crown Court case heard that most of the forgeries reaching England were brought in by members of the Official IRA. But, to date, no major moves have been made against suspects here.

Gardai are understood to know about the involvement of a number of figures and have been assisting the US authorities. However, they also believe the counterfeit ring has been careful to ensure that none of their crimes can be traced back to Ireland.

WILLIE KEALY and JEROME REILLY

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author by Seanpublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 14:24author address author phone

This storey was published in the mainstream press years ago. It seems to pop up every now and then (just like the SF-FARC-COLOMBIA story) for no apparent reason. Or perhaps a strategic info dissemination campaign,,,,I dunno, but whatever it is, it's old, boring news.

The biggest counterfeit operation in the world is led by the U.S. federal reserve, the International montetary Fund and the World Bank - Workers Party 'millions' (yeah right!) are tiny in comparision.

What about a story on the 1.5 trillion GAMBLED (yes gambled in bonds, hedges etc..) on the stock exchange EACH DAY!!!! 3rd world debt is only about 3 Trillion in total, a sum which has already been repaid.

The big fraudests and terrorists sit daily in legitimate offices with nice clean suits and shiney smiles.....

author by Paul O'Donnellpublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 14:43author address author phone

Independent Newspapers has a long history of anti-worker and anti-socialist rantings.

It's current owner Sir Anthony O'Reilly follows a long line of such owners. His predecessors include the infamous William Martin Murphy.

The Murphy newspapers bayed for the blood of James Connolly when they heard that he might get clemency because he was dying anyway from the injuries he got on Easter Week.

Remember the words of the song "Which side are you on" before you give credence to anything coming from this quarter, or indeed from those who saw fit to stick it up on Indymedia just to get one up on the Workers' Party.

As Connolly said "Go ahead, do your worst..." - I'm sure you know the rest of it.

author by Kitty the Harepublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 14:59author address author phone

Sure it was Sean Garland, not Judy ? (The one in the Wizard of Oz).

Now there's a Top Jolly if I ever saw one.

Follow the Yellow Brick Road!

Remember the Provo in the Wizard of Oz - (The Scarecrow) and his memorable song "If only I had a brain" ....

I would not be just a nuffin'
My head all full of stuffin'
My heart all full of pain
I would dance and be merry
Life would be a ding-a-derry
If I only had a brain

Have ye nothin better to be doing

author by britkillapublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 15:22author address author phone

my, isn't it good to see the stickies crawling out of the woodwork?

it is a fact that that a counterfeiting operation was run out of the WP HQ in the eighties. a prominent member of the wp & oira fled abroad; he is a brother in law of a labour party (formerly dl) td.

wasn't it the wp publications "united irishman", "irish people", "workers life" "making sense" (sic) which called fror the extradition and internment of republicans?

some of you lot prefer to forget that the offical ira which had sean garland, tomas macgiolla, des o hagan and prionsias de rossa on its army council were responsible for the aldershot no warning bombing in which six women and a priest were killed.

the offical ira also killed unionist senator barnwell.

the offical ira pretended to call a truce in 1972; however the last time they killed a british soldier was in 1973.

the last time offical ira members were killed in action (by the british army)was in 1974 whilst they were planting a road mine.

in 1974 they launched a murderous campaign against the irsp; they were repaid in kind. liam mcmillen their belfast o/c was killed and garland were (unfortunately only) wounded.

1n 1975 they launched another attack on the provos, killing twelve people.

the offical ira even left bombs in sallins to kill republicans attending the wolfe tone commemoration.

in 1975 they killed larry white of saor eire.

in 1977 they killed seamus costello.

the above is only a brief extract from the ongoing career of the gangster organistion styling itself as the offical ira.

they still run protection rackets (especially on building sites in the north) throughout the country.

ever wonder how they pay for all their premises, full timers & clubs?

author by henry joypublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 15:49author address author phone

The propagandist Eoghan Harris was a leading ideologue of the Official IRA & Official Sinn Fein when Aldershot was bombed & Senator Barnewells was murdered.

I'd like to see him apologise for these incidents. Any chance? I will not hold my breath.

Its very likely that Mr Harris wrote the articles published in the United Irishman at the time defending the bomb in Aldershot as a military target.

Cleaning women & a priest. Very, very dangerous.

author by DFpublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 15:54author address author phone

We all know that the WP are a bunch of all Stalinist apologisers that are on their way out. Thw WP got money from dodgy sources, tell us something we didn't know.

Just look at recent election results. The WP are tiny in termsof support from working people. (Althought they do get more support than SWP, which isn't much!).

The Irish left is now represented by the Socialist Party and a number of genuine community groups and trade union activists.

author by Rick Decardpublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 15:57author address author phone

I remember in 1992 at a Workers Party special conference it was revealed how Sean Garland was rebuilding the Official IRA. Shortly afterwards six Workers Party TDs left with the majority of the party in the south to form New Agenda; this subsequently became Democratic Left.

author by Jackopublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 16:13author address author phone

One of the leaders of the WP in Cork, Jimmy Homan had a house and cars seized by the Criminal Assets Bureau last year.

They also used to run a protection racket in the docks in Cork where they controlled which dockers got work.

author by stick it to em boyspublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 19:00author address author phone

I realise the wp are finished and are going nowhere as a political party, but if they want to undermine the yanks by printing fake dollars they are doing more damage to the war machine economy than the crazies in the swp and their loonie marches and well paid community leaders pretending to bite the government hand that feeds them ever will.

author by -publication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 20:14author address author phone

In all fairness the workers party has always been any ideological mess of a party in that it has never been ideologicaly unified in any way. Sure there have been some right bastards in the party but most stickies I've ever known have been sound dedicated socialists.

And where do they get their money?

Cumann na Gaedhael(Fine Gael), Fianna Fail, Sinn Féin, IRSP and DL (and a number of smaller groups) all originated in what is now the workers party, when these parties split, what is now the workers party got to keep all party property money etc., which was a lot.

author by guessagainpublication date Tue Aug 20, 2002 23:03author address author phone

ooh, ooh, first its the swp, now the workers party, who will it be next, not the government, the state or the establishment, the biggest fraudsters/criminals are big buisness capitalist establishment fukers, with their lucrative property speculations, their mickey mouse training organisations and their money grabbing private sector tinpot employment agencies, their private pig armies who protect only the property of the rich and the establishment, with their slave wages and non existant health and safety policies.
community workers, criminals and hoods take back for the people whats rightfully theirs. if mr bossman can rip us all off, we'll take back whats ours every which way we can.

author by britkillapublication date Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:09author address author phone

its important that this issue is discussed, the wp thru their gangster actions bring all left & progressive groups into disrepute.

apart from the original 3 comments which just had abuse & avoided the main questions, there has been no response from sticks to the points raised.

1. if the allegations are untrue, then why doesn't garland sue for libel?

2. in 1982 in magill & in 1985 in sunday tribune, major exposes of wp gangsterism were published. names wre named but no libel suits ensued.

3. What about the CAB seizing Homans property in cork last year?

4. in 1992 it was widely reported in the media that garland was rebuilding the oira. again he didn't sue for libel.

5. what about the protection racket run by doc doherty a gangster, wp member & oira member on the cork docks? dockers had to hand over part of their pay packets to be allowed to work.

6. Don't forget the protection rackets on building sites in the north. again workers have to hand over part of their pay packet if they want to work.

the WP gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Stalinist Gangster".

author by guessagainpublication date Wed Aug 21, 2002 19:26author address author phone

so what at least theyre not aryan hunwimp combat 18 child murderers

author by Spublication date Wed Aug 21, 2002 21:09author address author phone

in response to above, a few comments there is undoubtedly great tales to be told from all sides about last thirty years, when is the question.

There is no doubt there was gangsterism in the stickies, however there was also some people i respect.

In regards to dockland protection, I think if you travel to most docks you will find there is some form of system in place. In one large port, that i know of a man called 'the bishop' - (union official I think) calls the shots as to who does and doesn't get work.

Now Ian Huntley- Combat 18?? for real?

author by Observe & noticepublication date Wed Aug 21, 2002 23:57author address author phone

me think britkilla protesteth too much - in lists...
just a thought.

author by Johnpublication date Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:27author address author phone

A mate put me onto this thread and as I was a member of the WP for over 10 years I would like to make some comments (I was expelled so I would think I might be objective?). First of all, why as one of the previous emails says, is this currently in the papers. I first read about it over four years ago so its not anything new. I would contend that its not really about the WP either (presently they are insignificant. Its more to do with the current American 'anti terror'militiaristic build up.

Instead of asking why SG is not sueing the media maybe ask why he has not been arrested? And furthermore, why he has been tried and found guilty by the press.

Regarding some of the comments arising from the article I would say the following: No WP literature ever called for internment or extradition thats just provo nonsense. The Aldershotbombing referred happened one week after bloody sunday and was inside a military base (this isn't an excuse for the bombing which the WP in later years would condemn themselves)

There was a nasty feud between the OIRA and the INLA in 1974(people must remember that the people that made up the INLA were former members of the OIRA who were against the gradual winding down of the 'armed struggle') sometimes brother shot brother and frends became enemies overnight. Anyone who gloats over Irishmen murdering their fellow Irishman deserves contempt. Feuds are terrible for all involved and the only victor was Imperialism.

Eoghan Harris is despised by the leadership of the WP. Their current leadership would have never supported him or his positions. The former DL faction would be more sympathetic to his 'line'. BTW he was never a member of the WP as far as I know.

Jimmy Homan was expelled from the WP because he refused to disassociate from his son's who were imprisoned? charged with criminal activity relating to drugs, something the WP are strongly opposed to. J H was a community activist with a long established record of fighting for the working class, he was unwilling to disassociate from his sons so he was expelled. I wonder if britkilla (what a racist handle) has such a record or does he sit on his arse playing with his PC all day? Allegations that JH charged dockers money to work is pure bullshit.

Finally, can I say that its stupid to talk about the WP in the 1970's and 1980's in the same breath, as they had politically changed completely. To their credit the WP came close to introducing class into Irish politics. To their discredit they developed a position on NI that blamed the provo's for the situation instead of British Imperialism

author by babsdebrawlpublication date Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:29author address author phone

they could beat the fuk out of you any day, you and your state pig protectors, you need pigs to protect you, you run squealing and crying to mammy(peelers) when someone touches you.

author by britkillapublication date Thu Aug 22, 2002 13:21author address author phone

the wp called for internment & exradition of republicans from 1982 onwards. copies of united irishman, irish people, workers life, making sense would available in all county & city library repositories. they would also be available in the national library, tcd, ucd, ucc &ucg & qub libraries.

john you are a typical stalinist liar.

i never said homan was involved in protection on the docks, this was doc doherty. another stalinist trick; accuse someone of saying something they didn't.

garland hasn't been arrested becauyse there probably isn't enough proof for a criminal trial. but in civil actions the barrier is a lot lower, he won't sue because he knows he would lose.

the wp is a gangster anti working class organisation and you are an apologist for these criminals.

author by britkillapublication date Thu Aug 22, 2002 13:27author address author phone

johns biggest lie of all is regarding harris.

as john well knows harris was THE leading ideologue of the wp. he eventually broke with the wp in 1990 over his document "the necessity for social democracy". for twenty years harris handed down the line in osf, sfwp & the wp.

john you learned your trade as a stalinist liar in the wp.

you're not a very convincing one though.

so the name britkilla is racist? were the offical ira racist to kill british soldiers & civilians then?

author by Despublication date Thu Aug 22, 2002 20:14author address author phone

The prominent member of the wp who legged it to foreign parts, ended up the then DDR, no doubt with the approval of the STASI. Another member of the wp ended up with literally money to burn on a rubbish tip in county dublin. LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION but don't bother Prionsias in Strasbourg.

author by johnpublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 00:44author address author phone

I don't think theres much value in getting into a discussion/debate with either of the two who responded to my mail. To the first all Ill say is keep taking the medication and we will all say a prayer. To the second (britkilla) a few points;
1. Yes you are a racist to use such a name as britkilla
2. I am quiet sure that only an armchair provo/Earp would be dense enough to use such a name
3. The 70's are over, grow up, get a life, move on.
4. The sticks are insignificant use your hate for more constructive purposes.

5. I will reiterate that the WP NEVER supported internment or extradition (quote the relevant source for this assertion)

6. Stop reading what the Phoblacht, phoenix say the WP said and read what they actually said.

7. The Feud (like all feuds) are terrible destructive, counter productive events. The OIRA/INLA feud led to former comrades shooting and killing each other, sometimes families split down the middle. I would never gloat when Irishmen kill Irishmen.

As I said at the outset I was a member of the WP (not the OIRA). When the development of the WP was discussed at educational seminars the discussion would be critical of events like Aldershot because even if the bomb in the Army Barracks (a fact you overlooked) had have killed soldiers it would have achieved nothing. The soldiers would have been replaced by more unemployed cannon fodder and Ireland would be no nearer Unity. The WP realised that in 1972, it took the Provo's another 25 years of senseless struggle to come to the same conclusion.

I was honest enough to say what my affialiations were maybe you will nail your colors to the mast?

author by trotstalpublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 00:54author address author phone

Britkilla is a boring trot and John is a boring stalinist, both idealogies are defunkt. people dont want to know. As for you dollar forging whingers, stop being holy joe moralists, this is probally the only revolutionary thing the sticks or most other Irish groups have ever done, it undermines the military industrial complex and has probally saved a few thousand lives in the process. So wise up ye useless gits

author by Gypsy Bhoypublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 11:23author address author phone

You outline a litany of what you perceive to be 'Official' evils.

The bombing of the Para military base within the same month as Bloody Sunday. The shooting of Sen. Barnhill (aka Barnwell perhaps only by yourself). Shooting of a British soldier after a ceasefire had been called. etc. etc. (BTW you omitted Ranger Best from this standard list provision and your knowledge about the Sallins incident shows your medication might need to be increased.)

If you think all of these are evil why then would you disagree with (alleged by you)with the WP in the 80's looking for extraditon for people who did similar things.

I take it using your rationale that PIRA/RIRA/CIRA/INLA are similarly 'gangster anti working class organisations' and that you are not an apologist for them.

Stop living in past the WP are as reduntant your nonsense.

author by britkillapublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 15:48author address author phone

John lying is not going to help you.

The WP supported Extradition legislation in the Dail. They also called for internment. anyone who cares to can check this in back copies of wp publications & the dail record.

http://www.phoblacht.net/goodbombbadbomb.html this link comments on cathal gouldings support fot the ruc "supergrasses policy"

http://www.swansealoyal.co.uk/o.htm this is alink on the more recent activities of the oira

http://www.turkishdailynews.com/old_editions/12_28_98/for3.htm#f31 a short bit on oira rackets.

http://www.marxmail.org/archives/january99/cockshott.htm for comments on stick treachery

http://www.irsm.org/irsp/costello/costellobio.html

http://www.irlgov.ie/debates-99/24feb99/sect15.htm
on some activities of repsol.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Northern_Ireland/Story/0,2763,200284,00.html has a bit on oira murder of costello et al

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/politics/docs/connolly.htm on wp support for devolution without power sharing

You must have been a congenital idiot if you were unaware of the existence of the oira while you were in the wp.

its not past history either, they are still invoved in gangsterism.

By the way, I'm exposing the hypocrisy of the sticks. They once they became respectable condemned "terrorism", whilst still carrying out bank robberies andd extoting money from workers on the docks and on building sites. not to mention actin as if they had a license to print money.

i believe official sinn fein & the oira once contained good republicans & socialists.

i certainly regard their actions against the brits as part of the wider anti-imperialist struggle.

however they went rotteen & cvoncentrated their efforts on killing republicans instead of brits. the oira started the feud with the irsp. garland & company decided to try & wipe it out.

why did the oira attack republicans on so many occasions?

will john please explain what function the oira had if they were no longer at war with the brits
or loyalists? indeed the oira even handed over
info regarding irsp members to the uvf. resulting in the sectarian murder of an irsp member.

again to my other critic, while i would have criticisms of the ira & inla actions during the WAR against british occupation; i campaigned against extradition and support the violence of the oppressed against the oppressor.

i'm here to expose the hypocrisy & lies of the sticks.

have you really left the sticks john?

author by pat cpublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 16:08author address author phone

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2419/civilrig.html

mentions wp support for ruc.

http://www.irsm.org/general/history/beyondthepale.htm

more on the peace loving oira

author by Gypsy Bhoypublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 16:14author address author phone

"i'm here to expose the hypocrisy & lies of the sticks."

If that is the case - how come you add to the hypocrisy and lies by getting the '75 feud completely wrong with the Provo's.
11 died - mostly officials and the only person killed in Sallins was a railway worker stabbed while the UVF were attempting to plant a bomb.

It's time to move on but if your going to throw dirt - do a bit more reading first and may I suggest from differing points of view.

author by britkillapublication date Fri Aug 23, 2002 16:49author address author phone

gyp you are either dense or a liar.

you check your facts, the oira killed 12 people in the 1975 feud. as an authority on this i will give you henry patterson.

in his book "the politics of illusion" he mentions how the oira in the 1975 feud killed 11 provos and also the chairman of the west belfast black taxi association (the taxidrivers were resisting paying protection money). patterson was a member of the wp when he wrote this book .

the oira also left a bomb at sallins.

btw john, i am an activist involved in many campaigns & have been for a long time. what are you up to since your parting with the sticks.

author by honest bobpublication date Sat Aug 24, 2002 20:23author address author phone

its nice to see such respect for law and order on the 'left' in Ireland. It proves that the work of the churches has not been in vain. Keep up the self flaGELATION

author by britkillapublication date Sun Aug 25, 2002 18:16author address author phone

soryy gyp. i misread the patterson book. it said 12 were killed on both sides including the taxidriver. bowyer-bell gives the total as 11 (omitting the cab driver).

i'm the dense one.

author by britkillapublication date Sun Aug 25, 2002 18:18author address author phone

bob, i have no respect for bourgeois legality. i'm merely out to expose the hypocrisy of the wp.


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